In an accident? You need to know this.

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Re: In an accident? You need to know this.

Postby Oxford » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:20 pm

Just an update on the follow up I had planned. I have been in communication with another forum member and it would seem that based on the legal advice he has been party to that having further matters brought against the driver may be very difficult, not impossible, but very difficult. For my case it may not be impossible as there appears to be an element of intent which is different to the other riders situation.

So based on that, the other rider and myself have decided to band together with separate letters but also potentially a common co-signed letter, all open to the Director of Public Prosecutions and other various interested parties asking for a variety of outcomes. These may include further investigations of our separate incidents, but importantly will include asking for better training for police investigators when cyclists are involved in traffic incidents where they suffer injuries and/or loss of property and for police to take more seriously complaints from cyclists about dangerous situations that they report, particularly when they have video evidence to support their complaint.

In saying that, please also look at my most recent video about calibrating your rear facing camera and read the comments section of the video, or go to the Video Camera thread where it also is:

http://youtu.be/HfB_yNsHyzw
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Re: In an accident? You need to know this.

Postby Oxford » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:21 pm

Media Watch just contacted me asking for permission to use the footage for a story on Monday, basically about unbalanced media reporting with regard to cycling. The video is for a montage from what I understand. They will also get the helmet footage to use at their discretion, never seen by anyone.
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Re: In an accident? You need to know this.

Postby outnabike » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:45 pm

Well done mate, I reckon get as much attention back on the system as possible. It may have a big impact on police training to gather unbiased facts.
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Re: In an accident? You need to know this.

Postby cp123 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:01 pm

I'd trust media watch a hell of a lot more than I would a current affairs!
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Re: In an accident? You need to know this.

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:52 pm

Another one, in the USA:

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Re: In an accident? You need to know this.

Postby yugyug » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:49 pm

Alex I'm not sure this is the right thread to post collision porn. Try Moron Motorists?
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Re: In an accident? You need to know this.

Postby softy » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:32 pm

Referring to oxford's video posting;

Please accept my empathy.

This was incredible to watch, it appeared the driver was trying to intimidate you into moving over, utilising the vehicle to threaten you, then decided to hit you or again intimidate you but got to close.

Changing the situation into car and car instead of bicycle car, it would of been a clear rear ending and the insurance companies would of agreed to pay the damages to the front vehicle assigning blame to the rear or most rear vehicle if it was a pile up.

It is atonishing how a bicycle is treated so differently?? The vulnerability of a cyclist seems to not be considered, even worse, the bicycle is seen to be the problem for just being there??

It never seems to astound me how perception trumps laws and who is percieved to be right. I have seen this atitude in a number of situations.
No wonder people are scared to change there transport mode. :(

I am glad that the mental stress surrounding this has mostly passed, in these situations you question everything and what is really right or wrong.

When things go bad it is amazing how people change and only worry about their own skin. :(
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Re: In an accident? You need to know this.

Postby jimred07 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:12 pm

I read this article AFTER my accident. This is great stuff and my lawyer was amazed at the detail in my notes which made her life easier. A couple of things I learnt:

1. Make sure the police are called, not just ambulance. In my case they weren't and this has slowed things down.
2. Make sure the scene is photographed before anything is moved, even in peak hour traffic.
3. Get a helmet or frame cam - actual footage is the best evidence.
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Re: In an accident? You need to know this.

Postby Oxford » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:36 pm

Cool, I'm glad this helped in some way, even if it was after the accident.
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Re: In an accident? You need to know this.

Postby outnabike » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:19 pm

From the 15 Oct 2014 an official change to NSW rules with collisions notification. They say this is what people may do.... :) It seems in a federated country it won't apply to all states.
http://media.drive.com.au/cars/car-news ... in_amplify

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