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Heaps of strength to your mate and the whole bunch Nick, here's hoping he's back in the wind quickly.
I'm off to cuddle the kids...
...whatever the road rules, self-preservation is the absolute priority for a cyclist when mixing it with motorised traffic.
London Boy 29/12/2011
The driver is under investigation. The police have a warrant to search his home for medical history. He did not look like someone who should be driving under any circumstances. He was a P driver and under the influence of something.
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Could still be an innocent explanation - e.g. first ever diabetic or epileptic seizure. Was the driver transported to hospital ? If someone who'd suffered a seizure or blackout refused transport to hospital via ambulance (i.e. medical treatment), it might raise suspicions they are covering up some negligence on their part. With someone in a critical condition, the police have to investigate all options and hopefully will get to the bottom of it. IIRC, due to the injuries to the cyclist, the police should also be taking blood samples from the driver to test for drugs etc.,. and taking him to hospital at least for that.
It's terrible to hear the cyclist is so badly injured - and it must be devastating for his family, friends and riding buddies to have this just before Xmas. Best wishes for his recovery - and if there is anything that we can do to help, let us know.
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I'm sorry it went that way.
Seizures can come completely out of the blue. You don't have to have a history of epilepsy to seize. I had a couple of seizures a wee while ago, what used to be called grand mal, now more accurately known as tonic-clonic or occasionally myoclonic - two different kinds but similar results. The the first of them came on when I was just wandering around Bunnings, as you do. Frightened the bejasus out of my wife when it happened.
The thing is you don't necessarily know it's happening until its happened, kind of thing. As often as not you lose consciousness without the benefit of a prodrome that would at least give you the chance to pull over and put the handbrake on. If the driver in this case is diagnosed with epilepsy he'll lose his licence for a minimum of two years.
As you say, sometimes !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! happens and there's nothing you can do about it.
yes the driver was taken to hospital. he was unaware of what he had done.
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Wow, thats terrible. I sincerely hope the cyclist makes a full recovery.
I do feel for the driver as well, if its a case of an 'accident'. Or if it was a bad decision by the driver, I hope he/she has learnt how sometimes the smallest mistake can turn into the biggest regrets.
I remember leaving school and some other guys my age used to drink/drive or speed all the time when they first got their licences. They never crashed or hurt anyone, somehow. Then one day we heard a girl in our grade was killed when she looked down to change songs on the cd player while driving. Sometimes lifes not fair. (Those guys woke up to themselves eventually and im sure are grateful they didnt have to learn lessons the hard way).
But i digress. Best wishes and good luck to the guy in hospital and hope you can sleep easily knowing you did all you could to help.
Yes, that is true. A guy at church had a series of them and was off work for awhile. The first was nowhere near a car fortunately.
I also saw a guy on a motorbike have a fit a few car lengths ahead of me one night at Spit Junction traffic lights while I was driving home from work. It looked kinda funny in a slapstick way , but bloody hell it was a near thing. If it had been even a few seconds later, after the light turned green and we were on our way down to Spit Bridge, it could have been a *very* different result. Fortunately he just toppled off the bike sideways to the right and the bike (a big BMW touring bike) didn't dart off. The traffic just waited and didn't move until he stopped convulsing, which i thought was good. Some peds seemed to have it under control so I didn't stop to assist.
You'd like to assume that the OP's crash was the first time the driver's had a siezure, but it's always worth checking.
Any further news on your pal, FT?
When all else fails, persistence prevails -- Lew Hollander
To add that seizure (fit) can come in many forms. Some may not have obvious jerky movements.
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Indeed. My partner has absence seizures. They can be subtle enough that people don't even realise she's having one. First diagnosed after having a seizure at the wheel, causing a head-on. The other people were unhurt. She had a broken collarbone. How she survived it, I'll never know.
To the OP, I wish your friend a full and speedy recovery.
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horrible to hear i cant even to begin to imagine being in that situation.
all the best for a speedy recovery to your friend. (as speedy as it can be at least).
seizures can be nasty and come out of nowhere. i had 2 in august for no particular reason - just blacked out and drove up a gutter all tests were negative and its never happened again thank god. i hope the driver is ok as well if it was a seizure while driving.
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gee nick, just read this, terrible situation, I hope your mate is doing ok. Hope yourself and other riders that witnessed it are ok as well, that is not something you want to witness. Let us know how your mate is doing.
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