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by Redbull » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:49 am
Maybe you need to edit the alarmist heading a bit.
i.e. Narrow it down to type and model and likelihood.
4 reports out of 27,000 bikes is not a major catastrophe
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by Marx » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:37 am
4 in 27k broken saddle clamp bolt? Can I hazard: “user error�
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by vaeske » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:05 pm
tell me something, if 4 in 27,000 isn't such a bad number, would you go out and buy one? I wouldn't...
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by hannos » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:07 pm
Yep.
What is 4/27000 as a percentage?
That's your failure rate.
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by lethoso » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:04 pm
vaeske wrote:I know someone has posted about this one, but i'd assume the 2012 models would've come out to Australia around this time...
...and I'd assume if it was subject to a recall in the US it'll be rectified on the models for sale here, if it hasn't been already as that release is from almost 3 months ago.... That said - 4 in 27,000 is not insignificant, given the bikes had only been in use for at most a few months when that notice went out - and that's only the reported rate.
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by vaeske » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:04 am
hannos wrote:Yep.
What is 4/27000 as a percentage?
That's your failure rate.
good luck with that one. failure of the bolt doesn't mean the rest of the stock are gonna be safe...just saying...
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by blkmcs » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:28 am
vaeske wrote:tell me something, if 4 in 27,000 isn't such a bad number, would you go out and buy one? I wouldn't...
You would only have to check the bolt, if it has a ring around the stamp mark then it is OK.
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by zero » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:10 am
vaeske wrote:tell me something, if 4 in 27,000 isn't such a bad number, would you go out and buy one? I wouldn't...
Its a seatclamp bolt, which is the most commonly user adjusted bolt on a bicycle. its a comfort/beginner commuter bike, being sold to the most obese population in the world, and seat posts occasionally creak, and owners occasionally get annoyed by creaks and overtighten bolts. Its also a plain example of factory spec substitution (ie trek specifies X, factory specifies X, bolt supplier supplies X for 6 months, then sneaks in Y when he thinks the factory has forgotten what the bolts look like. I'm suprised they haven't broken 4 FX frames in that number to be honest. Goes to show many of them aren't actually racking up 8000 km+ a year.
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by queequeg » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:19 pm
zero wrote:vaeske wrote:tell me something, if 4 in 27,000 isn't such a bad number, would you go out and buy one? I wouldn't...
Its a seatclamp bolt, which is the most commonly user adjusted bolt on a bicycle. its a comfort/beginner commuter bike, being sold to the most obese population in the world, and seat posts occasionally creak, and owners occasionally get annoyed by creaks and overtighten bolts. Its also a plain example of factory spec substitution (ie trek specifies X, factory specifies X, bolt supplier supplies X for 6 months, then sneaks in Y when he thinks the factory has forgotten what the bolts look like. I'm suprised they haven't broken 4 FX frames in that number to be honest. Goes to show many of them aren't actually racking up 8000 km+ a year.
I am sure they have. I have broken 2 FX frames through normal use, though "normal" for me is 8,000km+ per year. It is entirely feasible that frame failure with this amount of usage is just considered waer & tear and not a defect (despite the lifetime frame warranty). I haven't seen them recall the frames though.
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