Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby Oxford » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:49 pm

exadios wrote:
Oxford wrote:
exadios wrote:...

Since you know no more that what is in the video I would be a bit careful of claiming hit and run if I were you - the video does not show that.

the video title on youtube is "Hit and run by Jim's Mowing", the OP is just repeating the title of the video.


Exactly. He has repeated the claim. I was trying to point out that he probably should not.

so what should he do, post it here and call it "accidental love touch from Jim's mowing franchisor"? :roll: do all (re)posted videos have to be renamed?
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:09 pm

Oxford wrote:so what should he do, post it here and call it "accidental love touch from Jim's mowing franchisor"? :roll: do all (re)posted videos have to be renamed?


Maybe I should edit the thread title to "Alleged" or "Possible". I s'pose a "YOUTUBE:" up front wouldn't go astray either... :?
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby il padrone » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:18 pm

"Jim's Mowing hits cyclist..... and did not stop"

Stating the facts.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby r2160 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:43 pm

And the driver couldn't have waited 3 or 4 seconds???

That rider has some great skills. Glad they aren't hurt.

Hopefully something is done about the driver!!!

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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby zero » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:44 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
Oxford wrote:so what should he do, post it here and call it "accidental love touch from Jim's mowing franchisor"? :roll: do all (re)posted videos have to be renamed?


Maybe I should edit the thread title to "Alleged" or "Possible". I s'pose a "YOUTUBE:" up front wouldn't go astray either... :?


Its not a problem - the video clearly shows a hit and run event take place, and that is the community understood concept of a hit and run.

If I was to edit anything, I'd only change the Jims mowing to car with Jims Mowing trailer given that we know its a franchise business and we don't know whether even the franchisee was driving, let alone an actual Jims mowing employee/rep whatever.
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Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby find_bruce » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:58 pm

I don't like the topic heading either - I think "Mown down by Jim's Mowing" has a more feral hun feel to it :)
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby Sydguy » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:24 pm

:shock: Holy dogs balls! That was a very close call... if the cyclist steered out in front of another vehicle.

The police should arrest the guy, take him to the cells, bend him over... Ohh sorry this is a family forum.

The courts can do what they like but that driver will never share the road.

There is no cure for ignorance (tolerated in Australia).

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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby bollo » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:32 pm

here you go easy to get the plate number of the trailer go to the cops

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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:43 pm

NOW I've seen the video and words fail me :roll:
Crucifixion's too good for 'im :(
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Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby queequeg » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:17 am

That is both a shocking display of driving and an excellent display of bike handling at the same tie.

Sadly, I see this type of driver behaviour on a frequent basis. Firstly, motorists that have no spatial awareness or ability to read traffic and think ahead, and secondly motorists that will do anything they can to pass a slower vehicle (cyclist, truck, L-Plater).
The display in that video was willful negligence. Overtaking in a roadworks zone and then cutting across their path should see the driver docked a substantial amount of demerit points alone, but hitting the cyclist and driving off shows that the driver is not fit to hold a licence at all.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby PawPaw » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:05 am

I also sent a complaint to Jim's Mowing, and think it would be advantageous more people did so.
Businesses need to know this sort of behavior is totally unacceptable, and will damage their corporate image and hip pocket.
Imagine how the good guys with Jim's Mowing franchises feel when they see galahs like this bringing the whole corporate image down.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby exadios » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:52 am

PawPaw wrote:I also sent a complaint to Jim's Mowing, and think it would be advantageous more people did so.
Businesses need to know this sort of behavior is totally unacceptable, and will damage their corporate image and hip pocket.
Imagine how the good guys with Jim's Mowing franchises feel when they see galahs like this bringing the whole corporate image down.


Unfortunately, given the title of the video (and this thread) the response may be a SLAPP.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby find_bruce » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:15 pm

exadios wrote:
PawPaw wrote:I also sent a complaint to Jim's Mowing, and think it would be advantageous more people did so.
Businesses need to know this sort of behavior is totally unacceptable, and will damage their corporate image and hip pocket.
Imagine how the good guys with Jim's Mowing franchises feel when they see galahs like this bringing the whole corporate image down.

Unfortunately, given the title of the video (and this thread) the response may be a SLAPP.

A Strategic lawsuit against public participation almost always involves a suit for defamation. As Jim's Mowing is a corporation, in Australia it can't sue for defamation and can only sue for the tort of injurious falsehood which requires proof that the statement was made with malice & the corporation suffered economic loss.

Whilst they may consider writing nasty letters, the risk for a corporation is the Streisand effect, whereby their response generates far more negative publicity than the original incident. Because there is video, a draconian response runs the risk of attracting the attention of drawing TV news coverage.
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Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby ozstriker » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:22 pm

There would be no lawsuit the video has undeniable proof
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby jules21 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:26 pm

find_bruce wrote:Whilst they may consider writing nasty letters, the risk for a corporation is the Streisand effect, whereby their response generates far more negative publicity than the original incident. Because there is video, a draconian response runs the risk of attracting the attention of drawing TV news coverage.

excellent point. this is made for TV. jim's will just batten down the hatches and ride this out - hopefully with appropriate apologies made to the rider.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby gururug » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:35 pm

Let's not forget the guy behind who taped the whole thing. While i'm not a big fan of scrutinizing every tiny infraction that happens on the road. Incidents like this reaffirm affectiveness of video where serious mishaps occur. No doubt if no video of this existed, almost nothing would come of such an event unless the cyclist is maimed.

Let it also be a reminder to keep aware of left and right, especially at intersections like this. The guy takes no evasive action at all.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby ldrcycles » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:37 pm

An apology is nowhere near enough, if it was me that was on that bike i would'nt rest until i had that guy's head on a stick.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby HAKS » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:58 pm

Read on another forum that the cyclist in question has been in contact with the head of Jims Mowing franchise and they have cited the video and have also identified the offender. A police report had also been made.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby newbikeorupgrade » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:04 pm

go directly to jail...
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby Oxford » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:08 pm

gururug wrote:Let's not forget the guy behind who taped the whole thing. While i'm not a big fan of scrutinizing every tiny infraction that happens on the road. Incidents like this reaffirm affectiveness of video where serious mishaps occur. No doubt if no video of this existed, almost nothing would come of such an event unless the cyclist is maimed.

Let it also be a reminder to keep aware of left and right, especially at intersections like this. The guy takes no evasive action at all.

to be fair, sometimes these things happen so fast you just don't react or take evasive action. I know personally I've had situations where you just do not believe what is happening until it happens and it takes you by complete surprise. you can only do so much until something happens so fast that you are caught off guard. I'm not sure many of us would really anticipate that sort of left hook, particularly at speed.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby PawPaw » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:14 pm

Ox, I agree. It's the unexpected that totally wrong foots you.
I've been knocked off once and missed going under the rear wheel by mm's, and two very close incidents....and each time, my initial reaction was one of being frozen in disbelief that it is happening, hoping the motorist wakes up to what they are doing. Thousands of manhours of not being hit lowers your self preservation reactions.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby Big_Red » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:21 pm

All i can say is that cyclist has some mad skillz to not go down after that. No excuse from the driver would be valid for what they did, clearly left hooking the guy in the cycle lane who was wearing hi-vis and also had a rear blinkie going. Even if the car did not have a trailer, it would have been a close call. The "just got to be in front" attitude of some drivers absolutely sickens me.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby cp123 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:32 pm

If anyone is interested - read all the comments on the Riot Act website posted above.


Same cyclist - another issue today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx_PP85ZtMI&feature=plcp


I hope this guy doesn't go for the trifecta tomorrow....


Bloody hell i need cameras NOW!!! :roll:
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby longshanks » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:35 pm

I had a run in with a Jims Mowing franchisee last year in Sydney. It was nothing like this video, more a verbal disagreement as to the right i had to ride on the road. The driver trawled out the usual rego argument etc etc which i easily batted away. Needless to say I will never use a Jims service for anything after the incident. Another +1000 to the skills of this guy to remain upright and lets hope this douche gets a call from Mr Plod. That sort of driving is totally unacceptable and the driver needs to be held to account.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing

Postby trailgumby » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:44 pm

PawPaw wrote:Ox, I agree. It's the unexpected that totally wrong foots you.
I've been knocked off once and missed going under the rear wheel by mm's, and two very close incidents....and each time, my initial reaction was one of being frozen in disbelief that it is happening, hoping the motorist wakes up to what they are doing. Thousands of manhours of not being hit lowers your self preservation reactions.

Exactly.

When I got taken out mid-December 2009, my first thought was "####! He's too close! :shock: " and by the time I'd finished that thought he'd already swerved left into me faster than I could react. Friction between the rear passenger door's paint and my bar end pulled my bars 45deg left. Splat. Rear wheel missed my nose by inches.
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