Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh

[The 2nd Womble]

And yet 300 whatever drivers run red through just one Melbourne intersectionj in one day and it gets a passing one line reference? Pi55 poor effort at 89kph through that camera as well btw
http://www.thechronicle.com.au/story/20 ... own-range/

[KenGS]

Strava segment?

[ldrcycles]

Would have looked something like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwFxD7zbU3s

One of the comments on the article states that demerit points cannot be applied to a drivers licence for offences committed on a bicycle. Is that right? I was pretty sure it had been confirmed on here (with links to relevant sections) that demerit points could apply.

[The 2nd Womble]

They do apply in Qld.

[warthog1]

FFS

[skull]

Would be scary fun. A bit stupid on a road restricted to lower.

Have touched 100 going down the huon hwy but that us a 100 zone

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[find_bruce]

I have the strangest sense of deja moo. The question of demerit points whilst cycling has been addressed on numerous occassions. While I used to think they applied to cycling, I was wrong! Whilst the road rules apply to all road users, including cyclists & pedestrians, demerit points arise from having a driver's licence and relate solely to offences related to the driving or use of motor vehicles.

The question here is Queensland. Schedule 9 of the Transport Operations (Road Use Management—Driver Licensing) Regulation 2010 (Qld) includes the following definition

demerit points offence means an offence, other than an offence committed by a person while riding a bicycle, against a provision mentioned in schedule 3.

[Oxford]

They do apply in Qld.

not in Qld they don't, only apply to motor vehicle offences.

demerit points offence means an offence, other than an offence committed by a person while riding a bicycle, against a provision mentioned in schedule 3.

<edit> didn't see find_bruce's post until I refreshed the screen.

I really wish the police would familiarse themselves with the laws they are supposed to enforce before going off half cocked. whilst the act is seemingly stupid and they deserve to be fined, demerit points do not apply and the police should know this. how many fines are actually issued by police that are not valid in some way I wonder? I'd say plenty going by this article.

[twizzle]

I really wish the police would familiarse themselves with the laws they are supposed to enforce before going off half cocked. whilst the act is seemingly stupid and they deserve to be fined, demerit points do not apply and the police should know this. how many fines are actually issued by police that are not valid in some way I wonder? I'd say plenty going by this article.

Gee, just the other week the police in (I think) SA had to have a major grovel (in the press no less) for booking a woman for using a mobile phone.... while pushing a pram. They have now realised that it is not a vehicle and she was not a driver.

[Kenzo]

Have touched 100 going down the huon hwy but that us a 100 zone

Nice one! I'm yet to beat 86...

[KenGS]

Have touched 100 going down the huon hwy but that us a 100 zone

Nice one! I'm yet to beat 86...

Missed it by that much.

[Tornado]

Gee, just the other week the police in (I think) SA had to have a major grovel (in the press no less) for booking a woman for using a mobile phone.... while pushing a pram. They have now realised that it is not a vehicle and she was not a driver.

Twas WA but yes you are right.

The entry standards to the Force appear to have dropped

[ldrcycles]

Gee, just the other week the police in (I think) SA had to have a major grovel (in the press no less) for booking a woman for using a mobile phone.... while pushing a pram. They have now realised that it is not a vehicle and she was not a driver.

You've got to be kidding .

Have touched 100 going down the huon hwy but that us a 100 zone

Nice one! I'm yet to beat 86...

95, but i had an argument with the road and came off 2nd best, take it a lot slower now .

[rpmspinman]

I really wish the police would familiarse themselves with the laws they are supposed to enforce before going off half cocked. whilst the act is seemingly stupid and they deserve to be fined, demerit points do not apply and the police should know this. how many fines are actually issued by police that are not valid in some way I wonder? I'd say plenty going by this article.

Gee, just the other week the police in (I think) SA had to have a major grovel (in the press no less) for booking a woman for using a mobile phone.... while pushing a pram. They have now realised that it is not a vehicle and she was not a driver.

That's SA police clutching at straws right there.

As for the cyclist doing that speed. He has some large balls to do that speed and not get clipped by another car.

[twizzle]

Linky to story re. mobile & pram.

[Oxford]

Linky to story re. mobile & pram.

that really made me laugh and scream at the same time. how absurd and how often do we get told, too late, ticket is written it cannot be withdrawn? any wonder why people are cynical?

[jules21]

Supt Vanderbyl said the actions of the two cyclists were an accident waiting to happen.

"All it takes is for a car or truck to pull out in front of them and then we are dealing with a fatality," Supt Vanderbyl said.

yeah, but no one did hit them? doesn't that mean no offense was committed?

[bychosis]

Probably the same result at the speed limit too (60km/h) in the event of a car pulling out, just a little more chance of avoidance from the riders.

Calls for bike rego in the comments section of the article? I didn't read down too far.

[The 2nd Womble]

They do apply in Qld.

not in Qld they don't, only apply to motor vehicle offences.

demerit points offence means an offence, other than an offence committed by a person while riding a bicycle, against a provision mentioned in schedule 3.

<edit> didn't see find_bruce's post until I refreshed the screen.

I really wish the police would familiarse themselves with the laws they are supposed to enforce before going off half cocked. whilst the act is seemingly stupid and they deserve to be fined, demerit points do not apply and the police should know this. how many fines are actually issued by police that are not valid in some way I wonder? I'd say plenty going by this article.

I distinctly remember cyclists in Townsville being issued with fines including demerit points and licence suspensions for riding DUI along the Ross River and for not wearing helmets, however this was 10+ years ago. I must brush up on this me thinks.

[ldrcycles]

Supt Vanderbyl said the actions of the two cyclists were an accident waiting to happen.

"All it takes is for a car or truck to pull out in front of them and then we are dealing with a fatality," Supt Vanderbyl said.

yeah, but no one did hit them? doesn't that mean no offense was committed?

The offense was the cyclists breaking the speed limit.

Calls for bike rego in the comments section of the article? I didn't read down too far.

Surprisingly no, although there are a couple blathering on about cyclists don't belong on the roads, they are a danger to everyone blah blah.

[jules21]

Supt Vanderbyl said the actions of the two cyclists were an accident waiting to happen.

"All it takes is for a car or truck to pull out in front of them and then we are dealing with a fatality," Supt Vanderbyl said.

yeah, but no one did hit them? doesn't that mean no offense was committed?

The offense was the cyclists breaking the speed limit.

hmm.. you're probably right. hey, wait a minute

[Mulger bill]

yeah, but no one did hit them? doesn't that mean no offense was committed?

BAM! Got it in one

[Xplora]

Strangely enough, no one says that a car doing 60 or 70 in a legal fashion is ALSO an accident waiting to happen given the same circumstances? FFS

Bike Risk Kettle, meet Car Risk Black.

[ldrcycles]

Except that the car has a tonne or more of metal cage, side intrusion bars, seatbelts, air bags, and the cyclist has a lump of foam on their head and some skin tight lycra. Oh and fingerless gloves maybe.

[find_bruce]

Isn't the real difference that a car driver exceeding the speed limit is a danger to other road users, a speeding cyclist is mainly a risk to himself or herself.