Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
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Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:58 am
If anyone from QLD has any issues they'd like to get an answer on, post them here and I'll raise them when I'm there. Bear in mind these one on one meetings normally take place over half an hour and the coffee tastes very very good.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby human909 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:05 pm
While there might be some disagreements between you and me about exactly what and how we go about things. At least we have bikes in common and the desire to have more people cycling more safely. Keep up the efforts mate.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby Kenzo » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:39 pm
and stage E...
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:57 pm
Cheershuman909 wrote:Nice work Womble!
While there might be some disagreements between you and me about exactly what and how we go about things. At least we have bikes in common and the desire to have more people cycling more safely. Keep up the efforts mate.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby uncle arthur » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:57 pm
I hear Caltibiano is currently looking for some work to fill his free time.....
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby The 2nd Womble » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:40 pm
At least I know why it was postponed. For 5 week's worth of this guys pay ($48,000+) TMR could reinstate their cycling awareness campaign. That was the yearly TMR budget!uncle arthur wrote:Perhaps you should appoint a lobbyist?
I hear Caltibiano is currently looking for some work to fill his free time.....
Someone also tweeted this week that the Qld Treasurer was spotted flying international 1st class to somewhere or other. The bike path can't be a stretch for them.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby dontazame » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:49 am
Because rego is notbased on the weight of the vehicle, but on largely irrelevant cyclinder numbers, motorists have a stronger case to argue that cyclists should also pay rego and otherwise don't deserve to be on the road. Wider, heavier vehicles not only do more damage to roads, they are more dangerous and create greater hazzards for other road users; e.g. for cyclists, when they are parked or passing. Rego should therefore be based on the easily determined weight of the vehicle, not cylinder numbers.
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:46 am
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby dontazame » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:29 pm
I know that mate. No worries if you don't want to pay more rego, but weight instead of cylinders (or cup holders) is fair and just happens to work in favour of cyclists .Rego is not based purely on the number of cyclinders mate. Ask an owner driver what his 4 litre Mitsubishi Canter bread/water/tilt tray costs to keep on the road every year.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby jasonc » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:09 pm
agree this law is BS and needs to be removed.dontazame wrote:The law (as I understand it) making cyclists dismount to cross a pedestrian crossing (not signed for bikes) is illogical and generally ignored (if known). The requirement for cyclists to give way to pedestrians on a light controlled crossing is all that is needed. Illogical laws diminish overall respect and compliance with the law.
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:18 pm
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby Rhubarb » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:58 pm
If you provide safe, fast and direct paths (fast and direct means not shared with peds, dogs etc, not continually stopping and winding around obstacles etc) then cyclists can easily average 30km/hr. At this speed it is faster, cheaper, healthier, greener and more fun to ride a bike rather than drive. These dedicated veloways along key routes are the key, with existing backstreets and shared paths largely sufficient to get to the veloways.
Electric bikes also mean the average person can easily cycle distances of 30km or more, eg from SPRINGFIELD into the city, or outer Northern suburbs, or Cleveland etc, provided there is the SAFE, FAST and DIRECT veloways (bicycle freeways).
The solution is to get cars off the roads, not more roads. You only need to get 10% of people to change from car to bike and the traffic is so much better, and you don't need more roads. It also reduces future health costs treating lifestyle diseases, mental health etc.
Govts tend to see bikes as something you ride 1km to the park with your kids on weekends. Yes they do that too but what we need is SAFE, FAST, DIRECT veloways on major routes for actual transport. Build these and they will come in droves on their electric bikes.
Sadly my experience as a contractor within a govt dept for 3 years only reinforces the Yes Minister view of these community engagement meetings. Good luck though mate. One day the message will get through
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby Comedian » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:05 pm
I'm really sorry to break it to you mate... but I sat in a CBD bug meeting when the head of cycling in TMR (Matt Johnston) told us the current thinking is "if they use it we'll build it". Get your head around that one.Rhubarb wrote:For me the key message is "Build it and they will come !!!"
Personally...it's hard to know what those guys do because they don't deliver anything that I can see or build any infrastructure. As far as I can tell they are just there to make us think they are doing something...
Can I say though I don't blame the people... it's the government (politicians) that actual distribute the money and set the priorities. So, meeting with Mr E might actually help.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:14 pm
as for Matt Johnston, a very affable and committed guy being hamstrung by TMR at the best of times. A few words in my ear from the chap have only confirmed my view.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby uppo75 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:41 pm
So how did it go?The 2nd Womble wrote:Meeting now pushed back to November 13 but locked in. I'm sure by then it'll be too late to stop the rot.
or was it pushed back again
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:15 pm
He is also mildly interested in the minimum safe passing distance proposal and strict liability. We will meet again next year to discuss this further.
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