Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby Rhubarb » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:05 am

Mr Womble,

Here's an interesting article that would be good to forward to your contacts in Qld Govt etc:

http://lcc.org.uk/pages/seville-goes-dutch

In summary, it outlines how Seville managed to achieve a 10 fold increase in cycling trips in 6 years, and how the city has benefitted as a result.

Critically, it showed they were able to build the base infrastructure in just 4 years.

The out-take for govts: Build it right and they WILL come !!!!
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby Comedian » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:33 pm

Thing is... Citizens have to want it otherwise nothing happens.

At the moment in Aus... citizens are asking their leaders for more roads. :roll: :x
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby The 2nd Womble » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:18 pm

I can guarantee the Newman Government won't spend a single cent on cycling people. Remember they just pulled Qld Fire and Resucue's annual $150k budget used to educate teens on driver safety, closed Brisbanes only special needs school program for autistic children in order to save $80k, pulled all advertising material targeted at keeping vulnerable toad users safe, left ww2 vets to fend for themselves when their nursing homes were shut down...
The list goes on.
The ONLY way we'll see anything done is after the next election, and by lobbying the opposition regardless of your political bias.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby The 2nd Womble » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:23 pm

I forgot them slashing high ranking QPS jobs by 30%, planning to close inner city (INNER CITY) schools in Brissy, changing legislation to allow for voluntary voting to give them a better shot at winning the next election, proposing to cut workers compensation in QLD, sacking Mum 2 years out from retirement after 15 years in the public sector as perminant staff in a section of the Dept of Justice and in FNQ where staffing levels are already dangerously low etc etc
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby The 2nd Womble » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:24 pm

Everywhere you turn it's "Get stuffed Queensland!" From Newman's boys club.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby Comedian » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:35 pm

So I'm guessing by that the meeting didn't go so well?

I do agree with you on all the cutting stuff. It's nuts. I just hope the decline in services is obvious enough by the next election for people to see it and vote accordingly.

As I've said before though, I think the public does get what it wants, and at the moment it's asking for and successfully getting roads. I doubt anything will change while fuel is cheap.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby The 2nd Womble » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:34 pm

Roads are a government priority ATM because Newman wants to increase revenue from mining and industry and that's what they're asking for. QLD is also planning to allow B-Triples (road trains) on all arterial routes as NSW and Victoria are proposing. That will make our roads even less safe btw.
The meeting with the Transport minister? Well he said "It's coming but not yet" in relation to the Springfeild link, but I feel 98% certain ATM that it was merely lip service. I'm yet to find anyone that disagrees given that the current government is now being touted as worse than back in the days of Joe and Russ.
To give you an idea of how spiteful it's become, look at Tasmania, the current temps, the "catastrophic" brushfire alerts - which I've never heard referred to before - in Qld, and despite the pledge to streamline the SES by only culling administrative numbers in response to community concerns, front line fire fighters are being told they're no longer needed.
Admins, you have to excuse the politics in this thread but it goes to the very core of advocacy regardless.
The only thing I can see being done for cyclists is law changes, and that's only if it doesn't cost too much. Lives are cheap, saving them isn't. I think that sums Qld up right there ATM.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:29 pm

The 2nd Womble wrote:Admins, you have to excuse the politics in this thread but it goes to the very core of advocacy regardless.

This is Government, not politics.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby The 2nd Womble » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:58 pm

50/50.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:06 am

Queensland woke up this morning to the news that we are losing 400 Police. 150 administrative/senior positions and 250 front line officers!!!
This man must be dragged from office and buried alive before we are!
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby Mulger bill » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:50 am

:shock:

Stupid beancounter logic. Paying for service X comes outta my budget so I'll cut it and I look good. Paying for the knock on costs (usually higher in a societial as well as monetary sense) come outta your budget so you look bad.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby high_tea » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:07 pm

No reduction in frontline numbers, so they say. But times are tough, you know. Not that you'd know from all the cash they're splashing on roads.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:11 pm

Or trips or State functions or trade delegations etc.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:13 pm

...or week long community cabinet meetings in Mission Beach...
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:14 pm

...OR $80k refurbishments of ministerial offices... You get the idea.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby Comedian » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:03 pm

Or building a giant phallis that will replace a owned and cheap to run office building.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday

Postby Hamster » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:58 pm

Comedian wrote:Or building a giant phallis that will replace a owned and cheap to run office building.



The amount of money that this ego trip will end up costing us would be sufficient to build cycling infrastructure to would be the envy of any city anywhere. The problem with cycle paths is that you can't drive a 4WD on them and they don't contain 5-star ministerial offices.

I agree - The Executive Building might be old and ugly but it performs its function perfectly well.
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