National Drive2Work Day. Monday November 11.
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:26 am
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Postby twizzle » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:41 am
I agree, little/no impact on road congestion - after all, it's screwed already. But parking (around here, anyway) will be another matter entirely.il padrone wrote:... I may be proven wrong but that's how I look at it. Not trying to rain on anybody's party, just how I see it.
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Re: National Drive2Work Day. Monday November 11.
Postby familyguy » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:51 pm
Coming in late here...WestcoastPete wrote:I too feel the need to voice opposition to this project, as I have in the past. I feel that it's spiteful and vindictive, leading to more devisiveness and increasing the "us against them" mentality. To me it seems like a base action, looking at the problem too simply. I don't think it's a good way to promote cycling to others, and I feel that it will do the opposite of its goals of getting motorists to think "hey, there's a cyclist; I must be courteous because they're reducing congestion. Go cyclist!".
Just my opinion though...
I think the meaning/intent behind the day, and the actual interpretation the general public will take from it are far divorced from one another. I see it turning into a 'la di da look at the cyclists proving their point, thereby clogging up our roads even more than they usually do'. You've got to remember, the attitude of 'bikes are a problem' will remain even after this action.
There are problems of congestion, safety, and attitudes on each side. I can't solve it, but maybe this is at least an attempt, however misguided some may think it is. It's getting people talking.
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Postby Sydguy » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:55 pm
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Re: National Drive2Work Day. Monday November 11.
Postby g-boaf » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:38 am
People are always going to be anti-cycling until they get on a bike themselves, so there is nothing lost from this measure. Too often, bike-riders are the soft-touch, divided amongst each other. And our enemies see that - so they stoke the division between us. They set the touring and occasional cyclists against the commuter and sporting/racing cyclists, and of course, we all play along happily. All our ships must sail in the same direction.familyguy wrote: I can't solve it, but maybe this is at least an attempt, however misguided some may think it is. It's getting people talking.
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Postby il padrone » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:50 am
^^ THISg-boaf wrote:People are always going to be anti-cycling until they get on a bike themselves
Why I argue so strongly that we need to remove the MHL.
I really do not think your Average Joe Motorist is even aware of such fine differencesg-boaf wrote:And our enemies see that - so they stoke the division between us. They set the touring and occasional cyclists against the commuter and sporting/racing cyclists, and of course, we all play along happily. All our ships must sail in the same direction.
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Postby Mulger bill » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:40 pm
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Postby diventare » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:03 pm
1986 Melbourne (roughly) rules against parking motorcycles on the footpath were mooted - motorcyclists organised a rally which saw them assembling in Melbourne CBD and parking 1 bike to car parking spots for the time allowed. Such a graphic demonstration of the potential waste of parking space that we still have footpath parking in Melbourne to this day.
2009 rules against motorcycle lane filtering (moving between stationary traffic prisoners) were mooted - motorcyclists rode the eastern freeway in peak hour not filtering to demonstrate the difference it would make. Vic govt backed away from the legislation quickly after the traffic jam cleared.
The only problem with D2WD from my thought is that it would be difficult for the mug behind the wheel to realise that the extra traffic was coming from no bikes unless it was in their faces somehow. In the above cases everybody could recognize the action was by motorcyclists, D2WD is just more cars which probably won't be recognised as action by the average nail painting, phone using, book reading, red light running, speeding, bullying, frustrated but cant think of an alternative, lazy tax object motorist.
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Postby Mulger bill » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:00 pm
That's pretty clever, roads should be a little quieter with a few less smokeboxes out. Might make it almost bearable.Bob_TAS wrote:Interesting, I've always used Ride2Work day as my Drive2Work day...
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Postby find_bruce » Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:51 am
+ $20 parking but worse is the miserable attitude that comes with being stuck in traffic for an hour each wayThe 2nd Womble wrote:It's bad enough that that you'll have to pay for fuel.
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Re: National Drive2Work Day. Monday November 11.
Postby ironhanglider » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:51 pm
Only the hard core cyclists will be riding and they will ride anyway. As for me on days like this I drive to a free carpark 1.3km from where I work and have a commuter bike with racks and panniers on the car. Since I do the school and childcare drop-off on the way to work all the paid spots nearest to work are always full on even a regular day.
For the idea to work properly all the non-regular car commuters need to get there early and take up all the best parking spots.
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Postby lobstermash » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:12 pm
My only rule for the wet is to stay right off the road... There's something about Canberra drivers and rain...
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Postby ironhanglider » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:29 pm
Cheers,
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Postby g-boaf » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:47 am
Looks like the Drive2Work day fizzled out here in Sydney. The traffic wasn't any worse than it normally is.
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:00 pm
New fb page starting up this week iin preparation for next year. We'll make sure it doesn't interfere with anything else in 2014 and there will be much wider promotion.
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