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http://www.caradvice.com.au/228720/abol ... missioner/
This UK Commissioner proposes that speed limits be abolished, but in town, a blanket lower speed limit should be in place.
It's an interesting idea - and it might have benefits here in Australia with lower speed limits on suburban roads. I wonder if something like this, if we promoted it and pushed for it might make motorists happier?
If motorways were higher speed (eg, 150km/h+), it might necessitate the banning of bicycles from motorway breakdown shoulders.
I'd be for the lower speed limits, as the traffic outside my house does 70-80km/h - and some of it even does more than that.
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It won't happen in Britain and it certainly won't happen here. Every State Government's major revenue source would dry-up instantly for a start and it would be all downhill from there.
I do support revising speed limits though, getting rid of a few to avoid confusion, raising some, lowering others.
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From the article:
UK motoring organisations have dismissed Bett’s comments, with the Guild of Experienced Motorists describing them as “just nonsense”.
Turns out that kinetic energy is proportional to the square of speed. So we should expect that higher speed (not just "speeding") shows up as a factor in the road toll stats. And it does!
For a start 99% of high speed roads would need to be redesigned and reconstructed!
Most highways are designed for speeds between 100-130km/hr.
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Nah. Traffic fines account for about $300 million in revenue here in Queensland. Fuel excise is about $3 billion. I understand the $300 million to be a gross figure, so it'd cost something to enforce the laws, collect the fines and so on. It's a sum that state governments wouldn't turn their noses up at, but (a) the change wouldn't reduce the revenue from fines to zero and (b) it wouldn't be catastrophic even if it did.
If you are implying that limits are set too low for revenue rather than safety? The numbers and stats support the benefits of reducing even further and it is mostly the threat of public outcry that stops governments from doing so. And that seems to be on net effect of reduced revenue being more than offset by reduction in economic costs such as health, time off work, etc etc.
There is nothing but grief to raising limits in the metro area. Outside the metro area it is in my nature to drive faster if I was allowed. But 110kph in WA is pretty appropriate. About the only time that it would be of some signficance is the times that I have driven across the continent and, guess what, they are the times that I am tired and less responsive to the unexpected.
However there may be merit in an idea that was floated recently. It is that the police move away from instant readings in country roads such as you get from radar. In it's place is mooted point to point speed readings using the now available technology of cameras and plate recognition. That then adds an element of safety in that drivers could pass at a speed in excess of the posted limit when passing which is quite often the safest way to pass. Someone who then just likes passign lots of vehicles close to the limit would tend to still have a high reading, as would those who simply ignore the limit.
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There is no way that this would be safe or logical in the UK (or in many oplaces
The proposal seems to suggest that there are two types of roads:
1. roads withing towns/cities (where speed limits should be reduced); and
2. motorways that have the potential for high (unrestricted??) speeds.
The reality is that there are a whole lot of roads that fall outside of both these definitions. There are millions of miles of roads in the UK that are country lanes/roadways passing through fields etc - neither 'village' roads but not even close to being suitable for high speeds. Many of these roads are many hundreds of years old, are narrow and winding - hell, most of them were laid out when the biggest vehicle was a two horse carriage.....
Then there is the whole issue of all the small towns/villages/houses/pubs etc that lie in random places along these roads - for anyone that has lived or traveled in the UK, once you get off the motorways there are dozens of little hamlets/villages/towns/settlements/old farm buildings along these roads - are those 'towns' or will they have unlimited speed limits?
The reality is that this is something that simply wouldn't work based on the types of roads. That doesn't event mention the road conditions (snow/ice/sleet, drizzling rain etc) that UK roads experience....
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