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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:48 pm
by rkelsen
Ross wrote:WIth vehicles it is easy to count them because they are registered but with bicycles it's a lot harder because they aren't registered.
http://www.bicyclenetwork.com.au/genera ... res/30600/
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:07 am
by DavidS
Given the figures indicate a big increase in cycling numbers the fact that cycling fatalities and accidents are not going up indicates a lower accident rate for cyclists.
DS
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:26 am
by Ross
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:47 am
by rebilda
i risk my life everytime I ride on the road - will registering my bike help? or just make it easier to identify the body?
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:50 am
by JohnJoyner
Another slow news day.... It's like deja vu all over again...
And why are pedestrians worried... Maybe they shouldn't be wandering aimlessly across the road, against the traffic lights, without looking.
Num nuts blames the cycling fraternity for registration not ever going through... More like cost/benefit analysis done by governments perhaps.
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:22 pm
by VRE
So where was the bit where a cyclist broke the law? I couldn't really tell from the video, which appeared to show cyclists riding legally. Perhaps I missed the relevant few seconds.
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:59 pm
by wombatK
No. Never. Not ever.
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:22 pm
by rebilda
I liked Koshie's comment about these "Cyclists" who break the speed limit by up to 20kph - Wow!......even in a 40kph school zone, that is pretty impressive, (also fairly unlikely)....who writes his stuff??
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:56 pm
by rkelsen
According to the report mentioned in the vote4cycling blog:
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/infras ... index.aspx
Cyclists deliver $1.43 in economic benefits per kilometre cycled!
That's my answer next time someone asks me why I shouldn't pay rego! I'm saving the government $12k per year... almost $43.5k in the past 4.25 years.
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:16 pm
by VRE
rkelsen wrote:According to the report mentioned in the vote4cycling blog:
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/infras ... index.aspx
Cyclists deliver $1.43 in economic benefits per kilometre cycled!
That's my answer next time someone asks me why I shouldn't pay rego! I'm saving the government $12k per year... almost $43.5k in the past 4.25 years.
Same here (
holds out hand) - c'mon guys, pay up! I want my cut!
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:21 pm
by Mulger bill
Deja Moo.
Same BS, different day.
I'll be happy to pay rego WHEN motor vehicle regulation moves to a full user pays model, the smokebox rego would be about 10% of now...
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:29 pm
by il padrone
"Something needs to be done......."
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:39 pm
by Percrime
Wish we had troll registration. It could be the form of a congestion tax. For clogging up the interwebs.
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:17 pm
by Cheesewheel
actually I think it would be a good idea to head up some sort of (mock) bicycle registration organization. People could pay to get a little plastic sign (or upgrade to carbon fibre for serious enthusiasts) with a few random letters and numbers on it and they could stick it on their bike or jersey. The money raised could even be donated to some munificent bicycle charity.
Then apparently no pathological motorist would have anything to complain about or a legitimate excuse for elbow shaving you.
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:33 pm
by cowled
Cheesewheel wrote:
Then apparently no pathological motorist would have anything to complain about or a legitimate excuse for elbow shaving you.
Sorry cheese but there is NO "legitimate excuse for elbow shaving". Not even a little bit! What a silly thing to say.
I have given some thought to putting a little sign on the back of my new bike with a little camera symbol and a smiley face. I'm guessing that the only real motivation a bogan would have for giving me some room is if they thought their actions might be on camera.
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:36 pm
by il padrone
That Kochie guy is such a total tool. The guy riding the Furphy tank should use him to tighten the wheel nuts
Ahh, here
it is - Heckler & Koch Multi-tool - ugly beast eh??
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:06 pm
by Cheesewheel
cowled wrote:Cheesewheel wrote:
Then apparently no pathological motorist would have anything to complain about or a legitimate excuse for elbow shaving you.
Sorry cheese but there is NO "legitimate excuse for elbow shaving". Not even a little bit! What a silly thing to say.
I have given some thought to putting a little sign on the back of my new bike with a little camera symbol and a smiley face. I'm guessing that the only real motivation a bogan would have for giving me some room is if they thought their actions might be on camera.
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sorry I didn't mean to suggest it was (especially in light of your recent experience) .
My comments were more along the lines of actually complying to the (absurd) demand of registering cyclists as some measure to (suppoosedly) insure their safety ..... since even in youtube discussions that surround your recent incident you have this hackneyed argument resurfacing as if it bears some relevence to events at hand.
BTW I too have thought about posting a sign like you suggest (and have even had a road rager back down once he was aware he was on film) ... but I feel it might actually increase motivate them to yell and scream when passing , even if it inspires them to refrain from more blatant displays of dangerous/illegal behaviour
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:13 pm
by il padrone
Cheesewheel wrote:BTW I too have thought about posting a sign like you suggest (and have even had a road rager back down once he was aware he was on film) ... but I feel it might actually increase motivate them to yell and scream when passing , even if it inspires them to refrain from more blatant displays of dangerous/illegal behaviour
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:23 pm
by cowled
Cheesewheel wrote:
sorry I didn't mean to suggest it was (especially in light of your recent experience) .
My comments were more along the lines of actually complying to the (absurd) demand of registering cyclists as some measure to (suppoosedly) insure their safety
Fair enough. Should have given you the benefit of the doubt. The 'no rego - no road' argument is inherently flawed and yet people always bring it up as a reason why bicycles shouldn't be on the road.
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:32 pm
by briztoon
If bicycle registration was economically viable, it would have been introduced many moons ago by every State and Territory in Australia. The fact that it hasn't speaks for itself.
My email to the Sunrise team, not that I expect it to go anywhere.
Dear Sunrise team.
Could you please do a balanced segment on bicycle registration and bicycle use in Australia.
All the current media campaign against "lycra clad" cyclists is doing, is making it more dangerous on the roads for cyclists.
All it does is give the bogans and road rage nutters out there a perceived green light to intimidate and attack cyclists as they believe the Australian media is on their side and legitimising their actions..
Instead of inviting some media industry types to comment, who at best can only provide anecdotal evidence that can not be supported by any real facts or statistics, why don't you invite some proper experts in to comment and discus topics such as; road cycling laws, registration and why it hasn't been introduced, who is at fault for most bicycle versus cars accidents, the cost benefits of cycling and the impact on future urban road projects, Australian road culture compared to countries where the road culture is cycling inclusive, and finally the real statistics and costs of Australia's yearly road toll and vehicular offences.
You could run a week long series with a different topic each day.
Surely if bicycle registration was feasible, an Australian Federal or State government would have introduced it a long time ago.
Here's some reading material.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... 18330.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.smh.com.au/national/bike-rid ... 2qxdg.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.anzpaa.org.au/current-initia ... aster-2013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.ptua.org.au/myths/petroltax.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:01 pm
by trailgumby
Percrime wrote:Wish we had troll registration. It could be the form of a congestion tax. For clogging up the interwebs.
Gold! QFT
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:11 pm
by cowled
And this is why I didn't want to do a story with Channel 7.
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:24 pm
by kb
I thinking it would be good to have a number plate the other day. Bolted onto a steel rod sticking 1.5m out the RHS.
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:06 pm
by Cheesewheel
il padrone wrote:Cheesewheel wrote:BTW I too have thought about posting a sign like you suggest (and have even had a road rager back down once he was aware he was on film) ... but I feel it might actually increase motivate them to yell and scream when passing , even if it inspires them to refrain from more blatant displays of dangerous/illegal behaviour
In my experience the polite jacket works as a stronger semiotic tool to deliver a desired result.
Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:50 am
by JohnJoyner
kb wrote:I thinking it would be good to have a number plate the other day. Bolted onto a steel rod sticking 1.5m out the RHS.
Love it...
