High street Northcote street art.
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High street Northcote street art.
Postby Kwaichang » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:29 am
Would hate to see anyone fall on these things...
It's got me scratching my head really I'm guessing its meant to be some sort of street art but really it just looks dangerous for cyclists and pedestrians alike...
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby clackers » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:29 am
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Kwaichang » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:06 am
Seems I wasn't the only person in Northcote who has issues with this ridiculous piece of metal that's bolted to the road...
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby il padrone » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:50 am
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby andione1983 » Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:25 am
saw that the other day.. And was thinking the same thing...Kwaichang wrote:Just noticed this on high street looks pretty dodgy to me.
Would hate to see anyone fall on these things...
It's got me scratching my head really I'm guessing its meant to be some sort of street art but really it just looks dangerous for cyclists and pedestrians alike...
Sent from my Galaxy far far away....
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:25 pm
I was rather scathing in my description of the panel that approved it.
Those in car pics are even scarier than the meeja ones
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Summernight » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:10 pm
Who okays these things??? Sheesh.
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby il padrone » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:20 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby clackers » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:30 pm
Damian Hirst could do 'Skewered Cyclist' and Charles Saatchi would reflexively pay millions for it, Summernight!Summernight wrote: Maybe it is meant to be truly arty when something or someone is impaled on the spikes???
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Summernight » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:08 am
Hmmm. Anyone got a crash test dummy or some such (a blow up doll may do) to impale on the spike (minds out of the gutter please... ) to get the point across?clackers wrote:Damian Hirst could do 'Skewered Cyclist' and Charles Saatchi would reflexively pay millions for it, Summernight!Summernight wrote: Maybe it is meant to be truly arty when something or someone is impaled on the spikes???
If he buys it for millions with our 'tasteful' addition it'll get it off that street and give the council some more money in the coffers. Win-win!
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Kwaichang » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:47 am
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Blakeylonger » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:56 am
The food truck that parks halfway down rucker's hill some evenings and extends it's equally sharp edged generator into the downhill bike lane with no reflective tape/lighting on it is more likely to take out a cyclist than this is.
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Kwaichang » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:14 pm
Nah I disagree it's ridiculous and dangerous and a waste of money.Blakeylonger wrote:What a bunch of whiners. If a cyclist is hitting that, they've already been hit by a car to be shunted into the middle of the road. This is hardly a higher (probability x consequence) than being doored, slipping on tram tracks etc.
The food truck that parks halfway down rucker's hill some evenings and extends it's equally sharp edged generator into the downhill bike lane with no reflective tape/lighting on it is more likely to take out a cyclist than this is.
If you can't dodge a truck parked on the side of Ruckers hill maybe you should have gone to Specsavers...
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Blakeylonger » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:26 pm
All art could be considered a waste of money. That doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.Kwaichang wrote:Nah I disagree it's ridiculous and dangerous and a waste of money.
If you can't dodge a truck parked on the side of Ruckers hill maybe you should have gone to Specsavers...
The actual, not perceived, risk of this is so much lower than so many other pieces of road furniture and driver behaviour it's heading down there towards shark attacks.
The generator extension from the truck that protrudes while it's vending and occupies the bike lane with it's 90º steel edges has a slightly higher consequence than hitting the art (due to increased direct impact speed), but a higher likelihood of occurring (due to location).
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:46 pm
Choob search "cyclist doored" and get back to us on speed and direction of impacts. Hurts enough if it's just the road the rider ends up hitting.Blakeylonger wrote:All art could be considered a waste of money. That doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.Kwaichang wrote:Nah I disagree it's ridiculous and dangerous and a waste of money.
If you can't dodge a truck parked on the side of Ruckers hill maybe you should have gone to Specsavers...
The actual, not perceived, risk of this is so much lower than so many other pieces of road furniture and driver behaviour it's heading down there towards shark attacks.
The generator extension from the truck that protrudes while it's vending and occupies the bike lane with it's 90º steel edges has a slightly higher consequence than hitting the art (due to increased direct impact speed), but a higher likelihood of occurring (due to location).
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby il padrone » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:18 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby human909 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:46 pm
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby il padrone » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:50 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby human909 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:53 pm
I think its time to audit their risk assessment and road safety team.
Steel rebar ends on construction sites need to be capped due to OH&S issues. These are in a far more controlled environment and are temporary. Installing a spiky object in the pathway of faster moving vehicles and traffic surely should raise some eyebrows.
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby il padrone » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:37 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Blakeylonger » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:15 am
No kidding Einstein. And the probability of a cyclist getting doored is much higher than the probability of a cyclist hitting that sculpture. Which means that getting doored ranks higher on the risk matrix.Mulger bill wrote:Choob search "cyclist doored" and get back to us on speed and direction of impacts. Hurts enough if it's just the road the rider ends up hitting.
Are you going to remove doors and pad the road too?
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Summernight » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:02 am
Aww, see NOW it is art (with that lovely red addition).human909 wrote:GONE!
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/pyram ... 2s9f3.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I have to agree with the person quoted in the article about the artwork looking aggressive. Why would we want aggressive and violent looking sculptures in streetscapes? Surely something with smooth curves and lines would be better. Calming art on a street that regularly gets blocked up with peak hour traffic sounds better than violent/aggressive art that may make people (subconsciously) more road ragey. But that is a debate for another time.
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:36 pm
Wow, insults. Argument fail.Blakeylonger wrote: No kidding Einstein.
Did you do as I suggested? Doubt it.
If you had, one thing you might have noticed is how far sideways a door can throw you. THAT was my point.
Personally, I'd like to see dooring as a license cancellation event. If the smokeboxer is that judgement or observation poor at 0km/h should they really be allowed to travel at more than walking pace?
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Re: High street Northcote street art.
Postby Lukeyboy » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:25 pm
And if a motorbike rider lost traction on the tram tracks?Blakeylonger wrote:What a bunch of whiners. If a cyclist is hitting that, they've already been hit by a car to be shunted into the middle of the road. This is hardly a higher (probability x consequence) than being doored, slipping on tram tracks etc.
The food truck that parks halfway down rucker's hill some evenings and extends it's equally sharp edged generator into the downhill bike lane with no reflective tape/lighting on it is more likely to take out a cyclist than this is.
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