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Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:38 pm

Interesting. Is this the source of the (de)Nile?
Safe Cycling Australia (on fb) at 8pm tonight:

In response to a journalist's enquiry of online cycling advocacy groups in Australia, here is what Mark Textor had to say less than an hour ago after recommending that we not be contacted at all:

RT @markatextor "(AT)********** follow us @amygillettfdn on safety issues. We are the only recognised safety group. Thank you for your interest in cycling."
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Postby Aushiker » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:45 pm

What exactly is Mark Textor role with the Amy Gillet Foundation and secondly why is he "important", i.e., why do we care what he thinks or says?

I did think his comment was pretty off as there are other groups in various states doing excellent work ... suggesting that there is only the Amy Gillet Foundation did seem to be devaluing others efforts.

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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:35 pm

Aushiker wrote:What exactly is Mark Textor role with the Amy Gillet Foundation and secondly why is he "important", i.e., why do we care what he thinks or says?

I did think his comment was pretty off as there are other groups in various states doing excellent work ... suggesting that there is only the Amy Gillet Foundation did seem to be devaluing others efforts.

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At one point he was the Chairman of the Board.
That had been my concern for a long time Andrew. It was their road or the high road for a long time. This attitude has ben quietly changing within the organisation for a short while now, but the few individuals within who continue to believe this statement holds true will always hold them back while others kick their lily white butts.
the sooner idiots like Textor bugger off, the better off cyclists will be.
At least what I've been saying for well over a year has now been very publicly vindicated.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby RobertFrith » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:25 am

Aushiker wrote:I did think his comment was pretty off as there are other groups in various states doing excellent work ... suggesting that there is only the Amy Gillet Foundation did seem to be devaluing others efforts.

I know it's twitter and the post length is limited but his claim that AGF are the "only recognised safety group" seems to be drawing a very low bow, quite aside from being a pretty rash generalisation.
I don't know about other states but AGF has close to zero profile in WA. If they are our only hope, frankly we've got Buckley's.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby g-boaf » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:02 am

He's also politically well connected. Very well connected.

Little wonder this lot are able to spoil it destroy the efforts of other groups.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:27 am

Pfft.

When it comes to rider safety in this country, I'll take a Sharpie over a Textor any day.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby Aushiker » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:27 am

RobertFrith wrote:I know it's twitter and the post length is limited but his claim that AGF are the "only recognised safety group" seems to be drawing a very low bow, quite aside from being a pretty rash generalisation.
I don't know about other states but AGF has close to zero profile in WA. If they are our only hope, frankly we've got Buckley's.


That was my immediate thought as well.

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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby Aushiker » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:28 am

Mulger bill wrote:When it comes to rider safety in this country, I'll take a Sharpie over a Textor any day.


Very good :)

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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby The 2nd Womble » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:33 am

Aushiker wrote:
Mulger bill wrote:When it comes to rider safety in this country, I'll take a Sharpie over a Textor any day.


Very good :)

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it took a while but I got it.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby Aushiker » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:44 am

A great sentiment from Mr Textor on Twitter this AM, but maybe after yesterday a more considered approach to implementation is warranted ...

Inspired by the life of Amy Gillett, our mission is Safe Bicycling, our vision is zero bike-related fatalities. amygillett.org.au


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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby ldrcycles » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:58 am

The 2nd Womble wrote:Interesting. Is this the source of the (de)Nile?
Safe Cycling Australia (on fb) at 8pm tonight:

In response to a journalist's enquiry of online cycling advocacy groups in Australia, here is what Mark Textor had to say less than an hour ago after recommending that we not be contacted at all:

RT @markatextor "(AT)********** follow us @amygillettfdn on safety issues. We are the only recognised safety group. Thank you for your interest in cycling."


Is there any sort of mitigating factor/context in which that claim is not grossly misleading and insulting? I've had an AGF metre matters sticker in my glovebox that I've been meaning to put on the bumper for a year or two now, but with this on top of the AGF's other shenanigans, that sticker is heading straight for the bin. I hope they're listening to this.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby The 2nd Womble » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:17 am

I would like to think that this isn't the attitude of all within the organisation, but geez it's so consistantly hard to convince myself.
SCA has without question done more in Qld than anyone from interstate, and yet we've never recieved recognition or assistance in any of our campaigning. That's fine, such help isn't merely expected, but it's attitudes such as Mark Crayon's that have seen them in particular -rather jump onboard - come in over the top, hit us and the increasingly large number who support us very hard, drown us out and say god knows what to sponsoring MP's and corporate potentials, not to mention the cycling community.
My hunches may take a while to fire on all cylinders, but they're usually on the money. I'm thinking after a good night's sleep that I have been wholly vindicated and I'm actually relieved.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby BastardSheep » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:22 am

For those people confused about what's going on, I've captured the relevant tweets here.

http://storify.com/bastardsheep/mark-te ... cling-orgs

I'm hoping that provides all the context. If there's other tweets that are relevant and add to the context, please let me know so I can add them. Those tweets left out by me are either tweets I'm not aware of or tweets I didn't feel were required for context despite being part of the conversation.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby The 2nd Womble » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:27 am

God I just reread that. I'm a monster!
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby Aushiker » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:34 am

BastardSheep wrote:For those people confused about what's going on, I've captured the relevant tweets here.


Thanks. Missed the "Kooks" comments ...

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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby The 2nd Womble » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:57 am

1. kook
1. someone posing very hard as a surfer or skateboarder.

2. someone that goes to every surfing or skateboarding event to hangout, compile pictures, start conversations, and generally be seen with real surfers or skateboarders.

3. also see: gayrab
"Dude, did you see that kook trying to drop in on me the other day?"

Pffft, I hate skateboardists.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby The 2nd Womble » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:15 am

It's obviously not just SCA that Mr Crayon views with utter contempt. Anyone not AGF is noone. It's a shane really when one considers that the AGF "achieved" so much on the backs of others really.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby g-boaf » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:22 am

Because he has the inside contacts to federal government and all of his old friends from the Howard era that he helped to mastermind, that's how he gets away with this stuff. He's got tremendous clout and influence still.

It's a shame - and his comments make me very, very angry.

I see AGF as a front for pro-pedestrian and motoring groups, personally. Because they seem to do everything they can to sabotage the work of effective pro-cycling advocacy groups.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:25 pm

Too split?
And what do you think is the frikkin wedge dill?
Could it be your cosy little enclave of feelgod groupthink not wanting to derail the gravy train of Govt funding doing its best to kill off perceived opposition from the grassroots?
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:34 pm

Now now MB you fractured kook you.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby BastardSheep » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:37 pm

If he honestly feels the community is too split, then maybe he shouldn't be causing more splits and divisions with his "We lead you follow, suck it up, we are the only advocacy group" attitude. The way you ease splits is by working with others, not demeaning them, treating them with contempt, and dismissing them and calling them kooks.

AGF got to where it was by working WITH other groups and asking other groups to provide support. They saw the olive branch and provided the help and support asked. Mark is just undoing all of that with his attitude. The best thing the AGF could do would be to disassociate themselves from him, reassure everyone he doesn't speak for them. That's what I'm pushing to get out of them.
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:41 pm

The 2nd Womble wrote:Now now MB you fractured kook you.

Can anyone guess the Don Adams quote that must come next? :wink:
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby The 2nd Womble » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:48 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
The 2nd Womble wrote:Now now MB you fractured kook you.

Can anyone guess the Don Adams quote that must come next? :wink:

Who's Don Adams? Was he the Rocky Montain guy with the big fluffy bear?
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Re: Mark Textor: the white knight on his shiny unicorn etc

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:21 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Would you believe that your answer was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike sensible?
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