The constant smear campaign against cycling

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby Toyopet » Sun May 13, 2018 10:46 am

Q: Why do cars need good brakes?
A: To avoid crashing into cyclists running red lights.

(so says the photo at top-left below)

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The car gets its brakes checked whenever it goes into the dealer for a service. But it annoys me that they pick on a cyclist for their (set up) test report photo. Yes, emergency braking is sometimes required, but it’s usually due to the actions of other drivers, not wayward cyclists!

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby mikesbytes » Sun May 13, 2018 7:59 pm

Agree Toyopet, they could of used a child crossing the road bringing forward the image of good brakes protecting our children but they use an image of cyclist. It's almost saying that good brakes will protect your car from being damaged by some ratbag on a bicycle
If the R-1 rule is broken, what happens to N+1?

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby BJL » Sun May 13, 2018 8:16 pm

It's a stupid photo anyway. Even though the green lights appear slightly brighter, it also appears that the red lights are illuminated as well. So which is it? And given that the traffic on the other side of the intersection is backed up, it's highly likely that even if the lights are green, it has only just turned green meaning that firstly, the cyclist may have entered the intersection on amber and secondly, it's also likely the car was stationary at the intersection at the red light for a period of time before the cyclist came into view.

So what do motorists need brakes for? To stop at red lights of course!

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby AdelaidePeter » Sun May 13, 2018 9:25 pm

I take the opposite angle: I'm grateful that this company is spreading the message that it's important to be mindful of vulnerable road users.

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby fat and old » Sun May 13, 2018 9:48 pm

AdelaidePeter wrote:I take the opposite angle: I'm grateful that this company is spreading the message that it's important to be mindful of vulnerable road users.


Agree. Glass half full here.

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby BJL » Mon May 14, 2018 8:30 am

AdelaidePeter wrote:I take the opposite angle: I'm grateful that this company is spreading the message that it's important to be mindful of vulnerable road users.


Where does it say that?

"Ensure your safety, and that of your family".

To me, they mean the occupants of the vehicle. As if the occupants of the vehicle are at any risk if they drove into that cyclist. Maybe if they showed another car or a truck running the maybe red light.

No mention of the safety of other road users at all. Indeed, the cynic in me says that there will be a few rednecks out there that would look at this and say 'another bloody expense because of those idiot cyclists'.

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby AdelaidePeter » Mon May 14, 2018 10:10 am

BJL wrote:
AdelaidePeter wrote:I take the opposite angle: I'm grateful that this company is spreading the message that it's important to be mindful of vulnerable road users.


Where does it say that?

"Ensure your safety, and that of your family".

To me, they mean the occupants of the vehicle. As if the occupants of the vehicle are at any risk if they drove into that cyclist. Maybe if they showed another car or a truck running the maybe red light.

No mention of the safety of other road users at all. Indeed, the cynic in me says that there will be a few rednecks out there that would look at this and say 'another bloody expense because of those idiot cyclists'.


It says that in the picture.

I've been to a couple of seminars on communication, and they always make the point that communication is not only verbal, but the visual component is at least as important. I've never done a course in advertising but I'm sure they take advantage of the sample principle: one message in the pictures, another message in the words - and they don't have to be identical. So there's no need to say "Ensure the safety of other road users" because they've made that point in the picture. (There's a car ad on TV at the moment which does the same thing, though in that case it brakes for a pedestrian wearing headphones).

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby human909 » Mon May 14, 2018 10:55 am

Well said.

AdelaidePeter wrote:(There's a car ad on TV at the moment which does the same thing, though in that case it brakes for a pedestrian wearing headphones).


As a car driver having to brake suddenly or take any evasive maneuvers for pedestrians and cyclists is a rarity. Doing it for my fellow motorist is certainly not uncommon.

These advertisements perpetuate the us-vs-them thought process whether it is deliberate or not.

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby mikesbytes » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:11 pm

Absolutely terrible things are happening in Melbourne, motorists are being forced to give way to cyclists

https://au.news.yahoo.com/new-roundabouts-drivers-will-give-way-cyclists-020514132.html

Once again cyclists are being portrayed as being evil road users. Or lets put it another way, I've never seen an article saying that cyclists are being forced to give way to motorists
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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby AdelaidePeter » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:41 pm

mikesbytes wrote:Absolutely terrible things are happening in Melbourne, motorists are being forced to give way to cyclists

https://au.news.yahoo.com/new-roundabouts-drivers-will-give-way-cyclists-020514132.html

Once again cyclists are being portrayed as being evil road users. Or lets put it another way, I've never seen an article saying that cyclists are being forced to give way to motorists


How are cyclists being portrayed as evil road users? The whole article puts a positive spin on it.

EDIT: OK I see, the word "forced". Well that's pretty minor given the rest of the article, IMHO.

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby Mulger bill » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:10 pm

I like that roundy design, it's not full radial entry but it's a move away from the tangential entry circular chicane that provides so much entertainment for those drivers in a hurry
...whatever the road rules, self-preservation is the absolute priority for a cyclist when mixing it with motorised traffic.
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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby Scintilla » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:01 pm

AdelaidePeter wrote:How are cyclists being portrayed as evil road users? The whole article puts a positive spin on it.

EDIT: OK I see, the word "forced". Well that's pretty minor given the rest of the article, IMHO.


I reckon the Feral-Hun's comments will be going ballistic right about now as all the motards hear this in the nightly news :lol: I cannot verify this as I have exceeded my daily two-article viewing allocation.

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby g-boaf » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:51 pm

mikesbytes wrote:Absolutely terrible things are happening in Melbourne, motorists are being forced to give way to cyclists

https://au.news.yahoo.com/new-roundabouts-drivers-will-give-way-cyclists-020514132.html

Once again cyclists are being portrayed as being evil road users. Or lets put it another way, I've never seen an article saying that cyclists are being forced to give way to motorists


About time! I hate having cars push their way through roundabouts.

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Re: The constant smear campaign against cycling

Postby find_bruce » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:34 pm

I really like the ped crossings on every rd

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