Qld Police Report Thread 2016
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Postby Lukeyboy » Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:23 am
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Postby Comedian » Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:07 pm
And, I forwarded an earlier one that wasn't getting anywhere to the police and transport ministers. It's really hard to imagine a more blatant or malicious example than this. The driver had to straddle two lanes to nearly hit us .. all while revving his engine. That the driver committed an offence, or that he/she was driving an unregistered vehicle at the time seems not to be in contention. It would appear they just can't be f@#$ed because I gather he/she has been playing a little hard to get.
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Postby PiratePete » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:44 pm
I don't think it's a class thing, I have to say that until a few weeks ago my sister was a QPS officer and she enjoyed regular holidays to the other side of the globe. She was single with a 6 figure salary, me feeding a family of 4 on a 5 figure salary - I'm a truck driver and ride a $5k + accessories bicycle, and putting two kids through private school.CKinnard wrote:Until police can afford $5000 road bikes, and European holidays to see how the other half lives, it's something that you will have to expect is going to persist. At the end of the day, it's a class issue.
There is a distinct issue where the police won't enforce the law, and the explanation that I've heard over and over again it's due to a lack of credible evidence. But for some reason when you supply the evidence which can be backed up by surveying the road to rule out any doubt that they still avoid it due to the potential legal battle in a court room. Silly IMHO as once an offending driver is shown the video footage, chances are they wouldn't pursue the matter, just like the last one I successfully reported.
I'm starting to get a little paranoid when a motorist pulls up and happily queues behind till it's safe to pass (like the X-Trail driver). I'm seeing it more and more that when the over cautious driver does this that once passed, the person behind them seems to regularly take out their frustration of being held up on the cyclist. After all, if the cyclist wasn't there then the over cautious driver wouldn't need to be cautious... I'm seeing this more and more, and I'm not sure if it's a new thing or whether it's just something my eyes weren't open to before. Just like I've noticed that your more likely to receive a close pass if there is a white line to separate the shoulder from the lane and your on or near it, or worse still, occupying the lane. Versus where there is no white line, where I've observed the vehicles are more likely to give you reasonable space even on 100kmh roads - shared territory perhaps?Comedian wrote:Ok, so I submitted the earlier one via the cyclist complaint line. Will be interesting to see how they wiggle out of that one.
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Postby Comedian » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:15 am
I've noted this too. I think you could be onto something.PiratePete wrote: I'm starting to get a little paranoid when a motorist pulls up and happily queues behind till it's safe to pass (like the X-Trail driver). I'm seeing it more and more that when the over cautious driver does this that once passed, the person behind them seems to regularly take out their frustration of being held up on the cyclist. After all, if the cyclist wasn't there then the over cautious driver wouldn't need to be cautious... I'm seeing this more and more, and I'm not sure if it's a new thing or whether it's just something my eyes weren't open to before. Just like I've noticed that your more likely to receive a close pass if there is a white line to separate the shoulder from the lane and your on or near it, or worse still, occupying the lane. Versus where there is no white line, where I've observed the vehicles are more likely to give you reasonable space even on 100kmh roads - shared territory perhaps?
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Postby InTheWoods » Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:45 am
Yep, these are both things. Especially the second one.Comedian wrote:I've noted this too. I think you could be onto something.PiratePete wrote: I'm starting to get a little paranoid when a motorist pulls up and happily queues behind till it's safe to pass (like the X-Trail driver). I'm seeing it more and more that when the over cautious driver does this that once passed, the person behind them seems to regularly take out their frustration of being held up on the cyclist. After all, if the cyclist wasn't there then the over cautious driver wouldn't need to be cautious... I'm seeing this more and more, and I'm not sure if it's a new thing or whether it's just something my eyes weren't open to before. Just like I've noticed that your more likely to receive a close pass if there is a white line to separate the shoulder from the lane and your on or near it, or worse still, occupying the lane. Versus where there is no white line, where I've observed the vehicles are more likely to give you reasonable space even on 100kmh roads - shared territory perhaps?
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Postby TheWall » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:42 pm
Agree here (and the benefit by waving is also that you are just possibly seen as human by the cars behind)PiratePete wrote:Yep, I'm now in the habit of waving the overly cautious driver passed if safe as they have slowed and I'm fully aware.
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Postby InTheWoods » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:33 pm
TheWall wrote:Agree here (and the benefit by waving is also that you are just possibly seen as human by the cars behind)PiratePete wrote:Yep, I'm now in the habit of waving the overly cautious driver passed if safe as they have slowed and I'm fully aware.
I do the same, when there is a slot where I can move over some drivers need encouragement to go past. It makes it hard to plan if you have enough road before the next parked car but I'd rather people were too cautious than the opposite so it's always worth being nice back.
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Postby PiratePete » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:43 pm
I'll buy you a mirror for Christmasjasonc wrote:had one that I had to wave past this morning. they were that quiet I didn't even know they were there (no, I don't wear headphones)
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Postby jasonc » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:56 pm
I waved them through. And gave them thankyou wave. I'll pass on the mirror,, thanksPiratePete wrote:I'll buy you a mirror for Christmasjasonc wrote:had one that I had to wave past this morning. they were that quiet I didn't even know they were there (no, I don't wear headphones)
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Postby outnabike » Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:30 am
So it is likely the idiot yelling at you to “Get off his road”, most likely should not be there him/her self.
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Postby ironhanglider » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:49 pm
No that says more about the targeting of who they use the drug test kits on. The tests are expensive, so they only use them when they think that there is a good chance of a result. Possibly they also do drug testing after an 'incident'.rapunzel wrote:Is it just me, or is a 1:9 drug test return not something there should be more of a focus on...if not with respect to driving, at least in relation to what this says about our society?
Alcohol on the other hand for the majority they just pull over a proportion of the total traffic on a stretch of road. However if there is an incident they will administer a test as SOP.
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Postby CKinnard » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:26 pm
It's a profiling thing, which many argue is unPC. i.e. if you are burdened by a myoclonic jerk (some tics or twitches), strabismus (cross eyes), exopthalmos (goggle eyes), ADHD, mania, depression, the police are more likely to apply a drug test, on the basis you appear abnormal and potentially drug affected. (a police mate volunteered physical signs they look for, with my assistance, on the basis of no crime having been committed. Police are very human, which is why they only score 1:9)ironhanglider wrote:No that says more about the targeting of who they use the drug test kits on. The tests are expensive, so they only use them when they think that there is a good chance of a result. Possibly they also do drug testing after an 'incident'.rapunzel wrote:Is it just me, or is a 1:9 drug test return not something there should be more of a focus on...if not with respect to driving, at least in relation to what this says about our society?
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Postby Mulger bill » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:28 pm
AND gives the meeja a chance to "Ermagerd!!1! Something MERST be done!!!"
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Re: Qld Police Report Thread 2016
Postby rapunzel » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:33 am
Of course. This makes more sense now. It seemed awfully skewed.ironhanglider wrote:No that says more about the targeting of who they use the drug test kits on. The tests are expensive, so they only use them when they think that there is a good chance of a result. Possibly they also do drug testing after an 'incident'.rapunzel wrote:Is it just me, or is a 1:9 drug test return not something there should be more of a focus on...if not with respect to driving, at least in relation to what this says about our society?
Alcohol on the other hand for the majority they just pull over a proportion of the total traffic on a stretch of road. However if there is an incident they will administer a test as SOP.
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Re: Qld Police Report Thread 2016
Postby Comedian » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:28 pm
So, basically he's saying the 1m rule only applies if the driver won't be inconvenienced in any way. If the driver does think it will impede their progress then shave away! Should I ever get pulled over for speeding I might try this.. "but officer it would take forever to get anywhere at 60kph!". I wonder how far that would get me.
Anyway, this is all still in progress. However I was wondering.. the CCC in Queensland can audit police actions for misconduct. Has anyone reported a police officer to the CCC?
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Postby cj7hawk » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:00 pm
This is the appropriate method to contact the Queensland Commissioner for Police -InTheWoods wrote:Comedian you could try the assistant commissioner for that district first?
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Postby Comedian » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:46 am
And.. it gets worse. "Ethical Standards" didn't investigate at all. They just handed the whole thing over to the bicycle rider hating Sgt Stephens who I spoke to on the phone. So they were of no use at all. You couldn't make this stuff up.Comedian wrote:So, after my last brush with the police in which a police officer close passed me... I was told you can't be expected to wait until there is a long straight with good visibility to pass a cyclist as it would take forever to get anywhere.
So, basically he's saying the 1m rule only applies if the driver won't be inconvenienced in any way. If the driver does think it will impede their progress then shave away! Should I ever get pulled over for speeding I might try this.. "but officer it would take forever to get anywhere at 60kph!". I wonder how far that would get me.
Anyway, this is all still in progress. However I was wondering.. the CCC in Queensland can audit police actions for misconduct. Has anyone reported a police officer to the CCC?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-25/p ... nd/7198784
I think I've got this in hand though.
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You got a police ombudsman up that way?
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