2017 Cycling fatalities

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Postby Scott_C » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:21 pm

Female cyclist in her 70's killed on Bass Highway in Leith, Tasmania (between Ulverstone and Devonport).

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-29/e ... ia/8853754
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Postby Scott_C » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:12 pm

Male Cyclist in his 40's or 50's killed in a suspected hit and run in Wandina a southern suburb of Geraldton WA.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... 6ff15d4dc6

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Postby Mulger bill » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:36 pm

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Postby Scott_C » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:42 pm

Male Cyclist 69, killed in Burns Beach WA when riding in the traffic lane for a short distance where construction works obstructed the road shoulder. What are the chances the Traffic Management Plan has nothing to say about cyclist safety?

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... 17b20b31bc

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Postby Tim » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:17 pm

Hit-run driver arrested over the death of an 18 year old cyclist in Buckley, Vic. yesterday.
Scant detail, I just heard of it on ABC Radio.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/37531088/vic-driver-charged-over-cyclist-death/
My sympathy to the youngster's family.

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Postby uart » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:36 pm

Scott_C wrote:Male Cyclist 69, killed in Burns Beach WA when riding in the traffic lane for a short distance where construction works obstructed the road shoulder. What are the chances the Traffic Management Plan has nothing to say about cyclist safety?

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... 17b20b31bc


"A 69-YEAR-OLD cyclist who collided with a car in Perth’s northern suburbs yesterday has died in hospital"

Why oh why is it always reported that the "cyclist collided", even if they are just going straight down the road and the car comes directly from behind and smacks into them? :evil:

This is something that seems to be very consistent with almost all main stream media reporting of cyclist accidents. Why is that?


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Postby Thoglette » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:51 pm

Just became aware of this one, which I don't believe is listed in this thread.
Cyclist dies after hitting bus in Melville

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Re: 2017 Cycling fatalities

Postby Scott_C » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:12 pm

There was also this fatality from Adelaide:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/law- ... 52e787cc62

62 year old cyclist struck by a car travelling in the same direction on the 22nd of October in Salisbury Park died a week later in hospital. 19 year old driver of the car charged with causing death by dangerous driving, driving while disqualified and driving with a BAC of 0.091.

How the F... do you already have a disqualified license at 19 years old and then choose to high range drink drive?

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Re: 2017 Cycling fatalities

Postby outnabike » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:48 pm

Its Adelaide drivers that's why.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... a19f32e91d
Drivers caught speeding outside Adelaide schools 17,600 times
Exclusive — Elizabeth Henson, The Advertiser
October 15, 2017 9:35pm
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RECKLESS motorists were caught speeding more than 17,600 times through crossings outside Adelaide schools, alarming new figures show.
The astounding statistic was revealed as police vowed to step up patrols around schools as students head back to class on Monday for the final term of the year.
The data, which was taken from 11 safety cameras at Adelaide pedestrian crossings major roads, also showed drivers ran red lights more than 1500 times and 65 per cent of these and speeding offences occurred when children were at school, the RAA figures showed.
The worst area for traffic offences was outside Blackfriars Primary School, on Prospect Rd, where a safety camera nabbed 4459 speeding drivers and 105 red light runners.
Another hotspot was outside Goodwood Primary School, where a camera on Goodwood Rd detected 2641 speeding motorists and 414 red light runners.
RAA road safety senior manager Charles Mountain urged drivers to slow down and “not take risks at pedestrian crossings”.
“Children are the primary users of pedestrian crossings outside schools, so the fact that drivers are behaving irresponsibly in these areas is very concerning,” he said.
“As these pedestrian crossings are not located within school zones, motorists aren’t required to slow to 25km/h, but we think they should still take extra caution in these areas knowing children may be present.”
A further 248 SA motorists were caught speeding in school zones, where they were required to slow to 25km/h when children were present, during 2016-17.
An alarming 77 per cent of these drivers were caught between 8am and 9am, when children were arriving at school.
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Re: 2017 Cycling fatalities

Postby jasonc » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:12 am

there was a fatality in Brisbane's Western suburbs yesterday morning
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nation ... 4ywqu.html

A cyclist has been killed in a collision with a car outside a school in Brisbane’s west.
A police spokesman said Kate Street, Indooroopilly, would likely be closed while the Forensic Crash Unit investigated.
The accident was outside the Ambrose Treacy College, with police confirming the cyclist was an adult.
A Queensland Ambulance Service spokeswoman said six crews were on scene to treat the cyclist after the crash was reported about 6.40am.
She said paramedics had been treating the cyclist but the victim would not be taken to hospital.
Police spoke with two witnesses outside the school.
It was just an accident," one of the witnesses said.
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Postby trailgumby » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:59 am

outnabike wrote:A further 248 SA motorists were caught speeding in school zones, where they were required to slow to 25km/h when children were present, during 2016-17.
An alarming 77 per cent of these drivers were caught between 8am and 9am, when children were arriving at school.

I'm forming the view that these 40km/hr (or 25km/hr) time-specific zones don't work.

It's too easy for drivers to get in the habit of blowing though there at normal speed outside school hours and forget what time of day it is.

The motor-centric nuts will complain and moan, but I think we'd be vastly better off if we made those speed limits 24x7.

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Postby jasonc » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 am

They are 24/7 in Vic from memory
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Postby Scott_C » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:09 pm

trailgumby wrote:
outnabike wrote:A further 248 SA motorists were caught speeding in school zones, where they were required to slow to 25km/h when children were present, during 2016-17.
An alarming 77 per cent of these drivers were caught between 8am and 9am, when children were arriving at school.

I'm forming the view that these 40km/hr (or 25km/hr) time-specific zones don't work.

It's too easy for drivers to get in the habit of blowing though there at normal speed outside school hours and forget what time of day it is.

The motor-centric nuts will complain and moan, but I think we'd be vastly better off if we made those speed limits 24x7.

In WA we have solar powered electronic speed limit signs at every entry to a school zone that only illuminate when the speed zone is active in order to remind motorists that the speed limit has changed. They seem to be effective and are a reasonable trade-off against 24x7 restricted speeds.

outnabike wrote:Its Adelaide drivers that's why.

There does seem to be something about Adelaide drivers and driving disqualified. The driver who seriously injured a cyclist on Tuesday didn't apply for bail because the driving while disqualified charge he picked up when he hit the cyclist is his 3rd concurrent driving while disqualified charge as he has pending charges after being picked up twice previously.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/law- ... c73c61afd3

In WA the police impound any vehicle that they find being driven by a disqualified driver for 28 days for a first offence and generally seek forfeiture of the vehicle for subsequent offences.

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Re: 2017 Cycling fatalities

Postby Thoglette » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:41 pm

trailgumby wrote:I'm forming the view that these 40km/hr (or 25km/hr) time-specific zones don't work.

It's too easy for drivers to get in the habit of blowing though there at normal speed outside school hours and forget what time of day it is.

The motor-centric nuts will complain and moan, but I think we'd be vastly better off if we made those speed limits 24x7.


Done in the NT (or at least during daylight hours, I forget).

WA has large illuminated signs any main roads affected by the zones. It's also the one place you'll definitely see uniformed officers with radars/lasers in the first week of term. No-one in the Perth CBD "forgets" - indeed you more normally see cars slowing down as they check the clock.

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Postby trailgumby » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:31 pm

And yet we have thousands getting pinged for speeding through school zones. Something's broken.

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Postby Thoglette » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:40 am

trailgumby wrote:Something's broken.

A lack of education and lack of enforcement. Driven by a lack of political will.

Sydney has roughly 5M residents; about 80% who have licenses. Yet barely 1/2M speeding fines per annum. Let's put that into context: that's barely three days traffic for the harbour bridge. That's just one major road.

No one in NSW is serious about road safety, least of all (by all reports here) the previous transport minister.

If you really wanted enforcement, it is entirely practical to add in-vehicle monitoring systems that will ping you every time you speed for more than a few seconds. Most major resource projects insist on IVMS systems coupled to individual electronic keys. The cost is down to about $1000 ea., plus some back end monitoring.
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Postby grimbo » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:29 am

Thoglette wrote:
trailgumby wrote:Something's broken.

A lack of education and lack of enforcement. Driven by a lack of political will.

Sydney has roughly 5M residents; about 80% who have licenses. Yet barely 1/2M speeding fines per annum. Let's put that into context: that's barely three days traffic for the harbour bridge. That's just one major road.

No one in NSW is serious about road safety, least of all (by all reports here) the previous transport minister.

If you really wanted enforcement, it is entirely practical to add in-vehicle monitoring systems that will ping you every time you speed for more than a few seconds. Most major resource projects insist on IVMS systems coupled to individual electronic keys. The cost is down to about $1000 ea., plus some back end monitoring.


I 100% agree, it is lack of political will that has prevented the establishment of any serious program to address speeding and accidents. What we get instead is efforts like the laughable "vision zero" program, all slogans, hand wringing and victim blaming.

But lack of political will just reflects the lack of community will. Any politician who pushed real solutions wouldn't be a politician for long. In fact, politicians who promise to remove speed and red light cameras seem to get more support.

Personally, I'd put red light cameras at every intersection and speed cameras on every kilometer of road, along with a fully automated fine system.
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Postby trailgumby » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:48 am

Thoglette wrote:No one in NSW is serious about road safety, least of all (by all reports here) the previous transport minister.

Police attitudes don't help either. Apparently the point of bike lanes is to keep cyclists out of the way of motor vehicles, according to Sgt Nino Jelovic at Northern Beaches LAC. I wish I'd recorded that conversation. :x

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Re: 2017 Cycling fatalities

Postby P!N20 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:01 am

Cyclist killed in Northcote, Victoria.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/cycli ... zjynj.html

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Postby uart » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:28 pm

P!N20 wrote:Cyclist killed in Northcote, Victoria.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/cycli ... zjynj.html


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Given the final position of the bike and the truck, I'd say it's almost certain that the truck turned left into the aquatic centre and cut the cyclist off. :x

This would have been where the cyclist was riding when the truck turned into him.
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Postby Mububban » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:51 pm

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Re: 2017 Cycling fatalities

Postby Scott_C » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:43 pm

And a second fatality today, this time in Eastern Sydney.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/cyclist-dies- ... zklf9.html

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Re: 2017 Cycling fatalities

Postby g-boaf » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:55 pm

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/mohamed-fagee ... zlw5k.html

300 hours community service is not enough for killing someone.

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Postby biker jk » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:15 pm

g-boaf wrote:http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/mohamed-fageer-sentenced-to-300-hours-community-service-for-causing-death-of-cyclist-ann-formazpreston-20171115-gzlw5k.html

300 hours community service is not enough for killing someone.


Appalling victim blaming in that article with references to having no light and wearing dark clothing. It's a straight section of road with clear visibility up the hill. The driver could see her but turned anyway misjudging her speed (it's a steep downhill and +60kmh is achieved by just rolling along).

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