Arguments to be used against cycling ignorant

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ColinOldnCranky
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Arguments to be used against cycling ignorant

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:48 pm

Useful resource for discussion with the haters and the ignorant is at "Cycling falacies"

Be aware that this is an English site, not Australian.
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Re: Arguments to be used against cycling ignorant

Postby DavidS » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:09 am

I like this one: http://cyclingfallacies.com/en/29/people-should-wear-helmets-when-cycling :wink:

I am not in total agreement with the obvious and somewhat heavy handed emphasis on separated infrastructure. I take the view that roads are made for road vehicles, bicycles are road vehicles, therefore roads which are not safe for bicycles are inadequate and remedies are essential. I'm not against separated cycling infrastructure but so much of it is bad and/or dangerous it is counter-productive, at least what I see in Melbourne.

They seem to have missed an obvious point in this one: http://cyclingfallacies.com/en/37/nobody-would-choose-to-cycle-if-they-could-drive-instead I often choose to walk or cycle because it is so damned hard to park.

The shopkeepers whinging about closing off the street near their shop does seem to be a common argument, see http://cyclingfallacies.com/en/3/shopkeepers-rely-on-people-driving They really need to get a grip, how often do people avoid certain areas because of traffic congestion or difficulty parking? This is one reason why people flock to shopping centres (although the paddocks of parking are getting so big the parking advantage is lessened) and street shopping centres suffer. I think of Acland St in StKilda in Melbourne, you would have to be bonkers to drive there and the street is so much less appealing with cars driving up and down.

http://cyclingfallacies.com/en/2/shops-wont-get-deliveries Really?? Wow, go to Delhi and see how they move everything on hand carts and bikes, the streets aren't big enough for cars. Catering for a somewhat large number of people too so lots of stock moving. Come on, there are solutions, just takes some thought.

Not a bad site, good for getting rid of some of the fallacies.

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Re: Arguments to be used against cycling ignorant

Postby outnabike » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:12 am

In the words of that great man.....Pedestrians are walking motorist , or bicyclists. Dunno who he was now, might have been a shop owner too. :)
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