London segregated cycle lanes some numbers

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London segregated cycle lanes some numbers

Postby antigee » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:12 pm

The UK Guardian has an interesting article written by and quoting data on a report prepared for London's walking and cycling Commissioner ..... yet to find the source report should be under tfl (transport for london) or mayor's office but no sign of...anyway here is the guardian article and some highlights....

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... don-moving

“At peak times, the new cycling infrastructure moves an average of 46% of people along the route despite occupying only 30% of the equivalent road space.”

“Overall, the numbers of people using these new protected routes has grown by a phenomenal 50% in some cases, proving that it’s not the English weather that’s stopping people cycling but the traffic-dominated nature of most of London’s roads. In total, more than half a million kilometres are ridden by cyclists on the average day within central London, a rise of 7% in three years.”

“Across London, our latest figures show that the total number of bike journeys every day in 2016 was 730,000, up from 670,000 in 2015 – an increase of 8.8%.”

some impressive numbers there for infrastructure that many local authorities and local politicians have opposed

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Re: London segregated cycle lanes some numbers

Postby BenGr » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:51 am

Definitely awesome to see, and it's always nice when decent articles come out after I see a rubbish article.

https://www.google.ca/amp/business.fina ... ycling/amp

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Postby antigee » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:42 am

BenGr wrote:Definitely awesome to see, and it's always nice when decent articles come out after I see a rubbish article.

https://www.google.ca/amp/business.fina ... ycling/amp


Think I nearly threw up after reading that lawrence-solomon article a few days ago - the bit that really got me in the bizarre logic was when he starts saying that cyclists should pay the full cost of road space and then advocates for on street parking to solve congestion!

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Postby antigee » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:56 am

found the link to the detailed report:

https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/publicatio ... road-space

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Re: London segregated cycle lanes some numbers

Postby Comedian » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:47 pm

And a road.cc version of the story.

http://road.cc/content/news/233370-londons-cycle-lanes-ease-congestion-rather-cause-it-cycling-keeps-growing

I find it absolutely fascinating - the shift to assessing how many people are using a road by counting people and not cars. This as our local council (BCC) are actively closing pedestrian crossings to further enable motor vehicle transport. :cry:

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Re: London segregated cycle lanes some numbers

Postby antigee » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:59 pm

Comedian wrote:.................

I find it absolutely fascinating - the shift to assessing how many people are using a road by counting people and not cars. This as our local council (BCC) are actively closing pedestrian crossings to further enable motor vehicle transport. :cry:


another report out yesterday (which I'll post in a separate thread) very much emphasised how TfL (Transport for London) - essentially a bit like vicroads responsible for key arterials in London and suburbs (but includes public transport), over emphasise traffic flow and needs to change culture and its key performance indicators......

The Healthy Streets approach represents a big shift in emphasis, which will be a real challenge for TfL in terms of its culture change. TfL’s performance monitoring is still geared towards prioritising motor traffic. In this report, we urge TfL to update its key performance indicators for 2018- 19 such that they better reflect the Mayor’s aims to reduce car dependency and get more people walking and cycling.

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Re: London segregated cycle lanes some numbers

Postby g-boaf » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:07 pm

Comedian wrote:And a road.cc version of the story.

http://road.cc/content/news/233370-londons-cycle-lanes-ease-congestion-rather-cause-it-cycling-keeps-growing

I find it absolutely fascinating - the shift to assessing how many people are using a road by counting people and not cars. This as our local council (BCC) are actively closing pedestrian crossings to further enable motor vehicle transport. :cry:


We know that's the case anywhere that builds some decent connected cycling infrastructure. Build it and people will use it.

There were heaps of people riding in Innsbruck on the roads and some of the bicycle lanes. It was a real mixture of riders. Us lot on road bikes just blended in. Roll up to the lights beside other waiting riders and start they'd start talking to us. And where there wasn't infrastructure, people rode on the roads with confidence and no worries about car drivers doing stupid things. All up it just made it easy to ride wherever you wanted to go without bother. You also didn't need to stick to just cycling infrastructure.

Even riding on fairly busy main roads was no bother. That's a real difference to here in Australia.
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Re: London segregated cycle lanes some numbers

Postby antigee » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:10 pm

rather than start a new thread since both London reports....here's the 2nd one:

https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default ... _print.pdf

from a press release:

Main roads and busy junctions make it more difficult for people to walk and cycle. Some roads in outer London do not offer even a basic level of service - with crossings inaccessible to wheelchairs and incomplete cycle lanes that throw cyclists out into fast-moving traffic.

Three quarters of the 9,718 people who were injured walking or cycling on London’s roads in 2016, were involved in collisions at junctions. And 71 per cent of the 1,287 crashes where people were killed or seriously injured, happened at junctions. [1]

Recommendations in the report include;

TfL should look beyond collisions data and consider potential to increase walking and cycling when selecting junctions to improve.
TfL should review the speed limits on all its roads in line with its new Healthy Streets check. [2]
Whilst on site carrying out standard and major roadworks, TfL and its contractors should check and resolve critical safety issues for pedestrians and cyclists.


suspect press coverage will focus on the suggestion that many junctions would benefit from 20mph restrictions

source https://www.london.gov.uk/press-release ... -junctions

compare and contrast?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-20/o ... ue/9166410

Seizing on the popularity of level crossing removals, the Opposition is marking one year before the state election with the major infrastructure announcement, which would be partly funded by the sale of Snowy Hydro.

If elected, Mr Guy plans to create underpasses at dozens of major intersections to remove traffic lights. The policy would cost between $4.1 billion and $5.3 billion.

Census data shows 74 per cent of Melburnians drive to work every day.

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Re: London segregated cycle lanes some numbers

Postby Thoglette » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:12 pm

antigee wrote:Think I nearly threw up after reading that lawrence-solomon article a few days ago - the bit that really got me in the bizarre logic was when he starts saying that cyclists should pay the full cost of road space and then advocates for on street parking to solve congestion!

Well, he's funded by and runs the "Energy Probe Research Foundation" which, according to the wikipedia entry denies climate change and is (at least partially) funded by big oil. Cursory research indicates that large quantities of salt should be applied to fhe publicly reported versions of his conclusions on any subject.
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