New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby Xplora » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:53 pm
Don't know. I know they recently did a 30 year old warranty job on an old alloy frame... lifetime warranty might have fineprint, but I have a feeling that the fineprint might only be invoked under particular circumstances. Sometimes assumptions about manufacturing defects aren't manufacturing defects. I don't question the reality that some stores might have to wear the warranty claim, and will resist the easy swap.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby Homo Suburbiensis » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:04 pm
When the emonda news was released I immediately questioned this because, as described above, the lower end models are not light (despite still being still dubbed as "ultralight") and thus does not differ too much from the madone (apart from being non-aero). However it is now clear to me, trek announced that they would discontinue all madone models between 2-7. So I believe that it is simply a cost cutting measure, the emonda frames are probably cheaper to produce because of the round tubes as opposed to the aero tubes on the madone.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby rearviewmirror » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:11 pm
I've had three frames in 10 years replaced by Trek, two were carbon and even done internationally. Sure some components don't match up, but the shops did what they could. It's better than breaking a frame and getting nothing at all.Dirty32 wrote:It's been mentioned on here many times previously (and should be able to be found with a forum search, from memory AUbicycles was the last to post about it), but you've gotta be mindful what in fact Trek (or any other manufacturer for that matter) define as being a "lifetime warranty".
It probably isnt going to be what it sounds like or what it says on the tin... These bikes (especially in carbon) do have a defined and usable lifespan unfortunately. Outside of that, you arent getting a new bike if it busts in 10 years (or whatever it is that they deem a 'lifetime' for that frame). One would think that the lifetime warranty may even be less on this frame, given how light it is.
In short, make sure you read the fineprint before committing or laying down your hard earned.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby rearviewmirror » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:12 pm
When / where did Trek announce the discontinuance of the Madone. Couldn't find anything on Google.Homo Suburbiensis wrote:Trek are kidding themselves when they say that the Emonda is the "lightest production road line ever". Sure the top model SLR frame is very light but the SL frame weights are average to other bikes at that price point and the S version of the frame is much heavier than competition at the same price point. For example the emonda S6 was weighed on bikerumor to be 8.7kg which is very heavy for carbon bike with full ultegra 6800. As a comparison, aluminium bikes with 105 5700 such as the CAAD10 and specialized allez are slightly lighter (and according to the road.cc review of the CAAD10 with ultegra 6700 it is nearly 1kg lighter at 7.8kg). If you compare to other bottom end carbon frames the Giant TCR composite 2 bike with 105 5700 weighs 8.57kg (+ultegra 6800 is around 300-400 grams lighter than 105 5700) and this bike isn't even marketed as light weight.
When the emonda news was released I immediately questioned this because, as described above, the lower end models are not light (despite still being still dubbed as "ultralight") and thus does not differ too much from the madone (apart from being non-aero). However it is now clear to me, trek announced that they would discontinue all madone models between 2-7. So I believe that it is simply a cost cutting measure, the emonda frames are probably cheaper to produce because of the round tubes as opposed to the aero tubes on the madone.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby DTdotcom » Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:39 pm
I don't think anything has been announced, but I believe they'll keep the 7 Series only from next year.rearviewmirror wrote:When / where did Trek announce the discontinuance of the Madone. Couldn't find anything on Google.Homo Suburbiensis wrote:Trek are kidding themselves when they say that the Emonda is the "lightest production road line ever". Sure the top model SLR frame is very light but the SL frame weights are average to other bikes at that price point and the S version of the frame is much heavier than competition at the same price point. For example the emonda S6 was weighed on bikerumor to be 8.7kg which is very heavy for carbon bike with full ultegra 6800. As a comparison, aluminium bikes with 105 5700 such as the CAAD10 and specialized allez are slightly lighter (and according to the road.cc review of the CAAD10 with ultegra 6700 it is nearly 1kg lighter at 7.8kg). If you compare to other bottom end carbon frames the Giant TCR composite 2 bike with 105 5700 weighs 8.57kg (+ultegra 6800 is around 300-400 grams lighter than 105 5700) and this bike isn't even marketed as light weight.
When the emonda news was released I immediately questioned this because, as described above, the lower end models are not light (despite still being still dubbed as "ultralight") and thus does not differ too much from the madone (apart from being non-aero). However it is now clear to me, trek announced that they would discontinue all madone models between 2-7. So I believe that it is simply a cost cutting measure, the emonda frames are probably cheaper to produce because of the round tubes as opposed to the aero tubes on the madone.
Trek are obviously trying to build some cred in the lightweight market in anticipation of the UCI either lowering or doing away with bike weight limits.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby warthog1 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:38 pm
Here's hoping that doesn't happen. It's one of their better rules. The sport should be about the athlete not the bike.Dimma wrote: in anticipation of the UCI either lowering or doing away with bike weight limits.
An excellent way to increase costs and reduce durability in an already expensive sport would be to eliminate the weight limit.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:20 pm
That would be a sensible idea.ball bearing wrote:I see no problem with eliminating the weight restriction. As new technologies become discovered lighter weight will always be a possibility. What's is needed is a standardised stress/durability test that will ensure that the frames are made to withstand the rigours of the road and a very fit rider.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby Homo Suburbiensis » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:52 pm
Dimma wrote:I don't think anything has been announced, but I believe they'll keep the 7 Series only from next year.rearviewmirror wrote:
When / where did Trek announce the discontinuance of the Madone. Couldn't find anything on Google.
Trek are obviously trying to build some cred in the lightweight market in anticipation of the UCI either lowering or doing away with bike weight limits.
From trek world 2014. Road.cc website.
“The big question is where the Émonda leaves the Madone”, Chris said, and we had been wondering. The answer? Out on its ear, largely. Everything from the 3 Series Madone to the 6 Series Madone has been removed from the range. The three levels of Émonda frame go into the gap.
That leaves the Madone as a 2 Series option with an Alpha Aluminium frame, and the top-end 7 Series frame will still be available too.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby jasonc » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:54 pm
well that's crap. most madones you see are 4-6. the emonda is more exxy. people would go elsewhereHomo Suburbiensis wrote:From trek world 2014. Road.cc website.
“The big question is where the Émonda leaves the Madone”, Chris said, and we had been wondering. The answer? Out on its ear, largely. Everything from the 3 Series Madone to the 6 Series Madone has been removed from the range. The three levels of Émonda frame go into the gap.
That leaves the Madone as a 2 Series option with an Alpha Aluminium frame, and the top-end 7 Series frame will still be available too.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby jasonc » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:06 am
90kg max and they are going to build it in a 62cm frame? hahaAndy wrote:Maximum rider weight is 90kg. It's stated in the video in the link on OP
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby Strange Rover » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:44 pm
Only on the SLR 10, I believe...because of the Tune components.jasonc wrote:90kg max and they are going to build it in a 62cm frame? hahaAndy wrote:Maximum rider weight is 90kg. It's stated in the video in the link on OP
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby rearviewmirror » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:52 pm
The irony of someone >90kg wanting that bike to begin with.Andy wrote:Maximum rider weight is 90kg. It's stated in the video in the link on OP
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby jasonc » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:33 am
well it's an easy way to keep the bike+rider package under 100kgsrearviewmirror wrote:The irony of someone >90kg wanting that bike to begin with.Andy wrote:Maximum rider weight is 90kg. It's stated in the video in the link on OP
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Postby mitchy_ » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:38 am
i'm 90kg, i want that bike.rearviewmirror wrote:The irony of someone >90kg wanting that bike to begin with.Andy wrote:Maximum rider weight is 90kg. It's stated in the video in the link on OP
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby rearviewmirror » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:49 am
90 is not >90.mitchy_ wrote:i'm 90kg, i want that bike.rearviewmirror wrote:The irony of someone >90kg wanting that bike to begin with.Andy wrote:Maximum rider weight is 90kg. It's stated in the video in the link on OP
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby jasonc » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:59 am
90 + shoes + clothing + whatever is in your jersey pockets is >90rearviewmirror wrote:90 is not >90.
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Postby mitchy_ » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:59 am
rearviewmirror wrote:90 is not >90.mitchy_ wrote:i'm 90kg, i want that bike.rearviewmirror wrote: The irony of someone >90kg wanting that bike to begin with.
i just weighed myself, 90.3... guess i am over 90.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby jasonc » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:12 am
i tell you what mitchy - you buy yourself one and i'll ride it til you are under 90kgsmitchy_ wrote:i just weighed myself, 90.3... guess i am over 90.
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Postby mitchy_ » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:29 am
hahaha. if that's not incentive to lose weight, i dont know what isjasonc wrote:i tell you what mitchy - you buy yourself one and i'll ride it til you are under 90kgsmitchy_ wrote:i just weighed myself, 90.3... guess i am over 90.
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Re: New Trek Emonda SLR 10. 4.6kg!
Postby jasonc » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:36 am
as long as you can get it in a 60 top tube bikemitchy_ wrote:hahaha. if that's not incentive to lose weight, i dont know what isjasonc wrote:i tell you what mitchy - you buy yourself one and i'll ride it til you are under 90kgsmitchy_ wrote:i just weighed myself, 90.3... guess i am over 90.
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