Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby roadiematt » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:54 pm

Hi all, recently upgraded to a 2013 tcr advanced 2 which is a great bike but it has one major issue which is its wheels.My bike is 4 months old and has snapped 3 spokes all on the non drive side on the rear wheel, my question is has anybody else had problems with Giants generic wheel system?? I have lost all confidence in my bike thanks to this quality issue, my bike is now in getting fixed again ,Be aware if you are looking at this bike.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby petal665 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:07 pm

I got reports from a Giant concept store that spokes have been breaking on bikes sitting on the shop floor, unridden.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Marty Moose » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:15 pm

Had mine since mid Dec no problems at all will keep an eye on it. Breaking in the shop..............
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby r2160 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:16 pm

Without trying to sound rude, I am wondering what you weigh??

At 90 kgs, I have snapped a couple of spokes on a set of Fulcrum 5's

Is it possible that weight is the issue??

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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby roadiematt » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:18 pm

I'm 86 klg, I've asked this question and apparently they are rated to 100klg.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby winstonw » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:23 pm

Early last year, a mate bought a 2012 Giant Defy with the PSL-0 wheels, and broke 2 spokes within the first 6 weeks. he weighs around 90kg.
The Giant LBS told me Giant don't publish weight limits, or recommendations.
That put me off buying a Giant.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Marty Moose » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:23 pm

Foot in mouth Mine are psl 0's :)

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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby SmellyTofu » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:26 pm

Never had issues with my Giant (DT Swiss) wheelset. Maybe coz I don't have the torque of a V8 but potholes etc I don't worry a lot about if I can't avoid them.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby roadiematt » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:27 pm

There seems issues with bigger guys on these rims!!
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby trailgumby » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:01 pm

winstonw wrote:Early last year, a mate bought a 2012 Giant Defy with the PSL-0 wheels, and broke 2 spokes within the first 6 weeks. he weighs around 90kg.
The Giant LBS told me Giant don't publish weight limits, or recommendations.
That put me off buying a Giant.

Then i guess they'd better be happy to accept lots of warranty issues. Which, from all accounts, they do without fuss.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Crittski » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:02 am

Dont you guys just bunnyhop potholes?
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby JessicaAlba » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:58 am

roadiematt wrote:There seems issues with bigger guys on these rims!!


Bigger? I'm just on 6ft and weigh 85-odd...does this class me as bigger??

(ps, I do not have these rims, just balked at the suggestion anyone around 90k could be classed as big...)
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Jesmol » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:19 am

Not sure this is a rider size issue, one the guys I ride with is under 80k and was continually breaking spokes on his, swapped to some Mavics and no problems since
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Morrie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:25 am

I have a 2012 tcr advanced sl1 with the same wheels. I'm a big guy at around 95-98 kg and have had no issues with the wheels. Still tru and no broken spokes after a couple thousand km. I love my bike and the wheels!
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Marty Moose » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:32 am

I'm 5"10 and a lean 85kg I fit the breakage demographic no issues at all. I will post up if I do, I think if they are breaking that often then there is another problem. I jump kerbs btw and treat them as training wheels :) :)

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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby roadiematt » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:36 am

Hopefully just a bad wheel then!! Just disappointing on a near new bike.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Toxteth » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:02 pm

roadiematt wrote:Hi all, recently upgraded to a 2013 tcr advanced 2 which is a great bike but it has one major issue which is its wheels.My bike is 4 months old and has snapped 3 spokes all on the non drive side on the rear wheel, my question is has anybody else had problems with Giants generic wheel system?? I have lost all confidence in my bike thanks to this quality issue, my bike is now in getting fixed again ,Be aware if you are looking at this bike.


I've have exactly the same problem with my 2013 Defy Advanced 2 which runs the same wheels. I'm 80 kg and have broken three rear spokes (two drive side) in the last 100 kilometres. Bike has spent more time in the shop than on the road which is frustrating.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby rabobank89 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:20 pm

Morrie wrote:I have a 2012 tcr advanced sl1 with the same wheels. I'm a big guy at around 95-98 kg and have had no issues with the wheels. Still tru and no broken spokes after a couple thousand km. I love my bike and the wheels!


You have PSLR-1's.. Much better wheel ;) Unless your bike shop gave you the inferior PSL1's...
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby dale79 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:55 pm

i did 3000km on PSL-0's last year, no spoke issues at all, i was 105kg then..
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Nobody » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:12 pm

JessicaAlba wrote:
roadiematt wrote:There seems issues with bigger guys on these rims!!


Bigger? I'm just on 6ft and weigh 85-odd...does this class me as bigger??

(ps, I do not have these rims, just balked at the suggestion anyone around 90k could be classed as big...)
Is 6 foot tall for a girl? Yes. Is 85Kg heavy for a girl?... I'm not going to answer that in case you hunt me down. :mrgreen:

Average weight for a man is ~82Kg.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby roadiematt » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:29 pm

I'm thinking I should try and hit Giant up for the next model up in there rims as know one seems to have an issue with these.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby biker jk » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:22 pm

The Giant PSL-1 wheelset has 18 front and 24 rear spokes which sounds low for heavier riders. I wouldn't build a wheelset for a +80kg rider with so few spokes. Yes Shimano does it but the spokes have very high tension and the rims can take it. With the non-drive side laced radially there are no pulling spokes as such to transmit torsional force so the drive side spokes have to do all the work. The DT Champion spokes used are straight gauge rather than butted and so don't tend to stretch as much to share the load with other spokes when the wheel hits a bump.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby roadiematt » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:39 pm

biker jk wrote:The Giant PSL-1 wheelset has 18 front and 24 rear spokes which sounds low for heavier riders. I wouldn't build a wheelset for a +80kg rider with so few spokes. Yes Shimano does it but the spokes have very high tension and the rims can take it. With the non-drive side laced radially there are no pulling spokes as such to transmit torsional force so the drive side spokes have to do all the work. The DT Champion spokes used are straight gauge rather than butted and so don't tend to stretch as much to share the load with other spokes when the wheel hits a bump.

Great post thanks, the frustrating thing for me when I bought the bike I was 96klg, I wish the bikeshop would have recommended either a different bike or a wheel with a higher spoke count. Thx for post.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Morrie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:46 pm

rabobank89 wrote:
Morrie wrote:I have a 2012 tcr advanced sl1 with the same wheels. I'm a big guy at around 95-98 kg and have had no issues with the wheels. Still tru and no broken spokes after a couple thousand km. I love my bike and the wheels!


You have PSLR-1's.. Much better wheel ;) Unless your bike shop gave you the inferior PSL1's...

Yeah my mistake sorry :oops:
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Mulger bill » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:12 pm

Nobody wrote:
JessicaAlba wrote:
roadiematt wrote:There seems issues with bigger guys on these rims!!


Bigger? I'm just on 6ft and weigh 85-odd...does this class me as bigger??

(ps, I do not have these rims, just balked at the suggestion anyone around 90k could be classed as big...)
Is 6 foot tall for a girl? Yes. Is 85Kg heavy for a girl?... I'm not going to answer that in case you hunt me down. :mrgreen:

Average weight for a man is ~82Kg.


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