Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Duck! » Fri May 16, 2014 12:58 am

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Duck! wrote:From professional experience, it seems to be standard practice for the Giant wheels to be replaced with Shimano ones. Given where the P-SL1 sits in Giant's wheel range, it's more likely you'll get a RS31 than a R501.


Also, giant and Shimano share the same importer in Australia so it makes sense from that POV too.

No they don't. Giant Australia and Shimano Australia are completely independent of each other.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Drizt » Fri May 16, 2014 11:50 am

2014 defy advanced 1, broken 1 rear spoke and buckled the rim. I weigh 90kg. Will work my way down to 80kg.

Just paid for a new wheel set so that will solve the superfantastic rim problem.

Getting H and Son Archetype 36h rear and 32h front. White Industries T11 hubs and DT Swiss spokes. Can't wait

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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Drizt » Sat May 17, 2014 4:21 pm

Spoken too soon.

About 60km into my ride this morning I hear another rear spoke break. Took me an hour to walk back home with the buckled rim :(

Giant, your wheels are not fit for purpose!
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby brett.hooker » Sat May 17, 2014 4:44 pm

Correct. A friend I ride with every week purchased a 2013 defy ult di2 and broke two spokes on those giant wheels within months; one on a soft climb and the other on a social sprint. He took the bike back and Giant replaced the wheels with shimano wheels. Amidst all that, he got into a set of fulcrum 3's and hasn't had an issue since. Those 3's are strong, light and spin great. He is a big unit; 6'2" and 100kg plus.

My 2c, don't rely on the stock giant rims unless you are super light.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Drizt » Tue May 20, 2014 2:27 pm

Giant are replacing my wheels with Shimano RS61's
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby jack11 » Tue May 20, 2014 9:28 pm

Drizt wrote:Giant are replacing my wheels with Shimano RS61's


Giant did the same for me (replacing PSL-0s with Mavic Cosmics) it is good to see a company actually back up the claims they make/invest in customer relations. Was a very pain free experience for me!
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby roadiematt » Sat May 24, 2014 10:25 am

My Psl1s were replaced with RS61s they are an awesome wheel and so much better than the Giant wheels.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby dale79 » Sat May 24, 2014 11:55 am

1 ride on my brand new pslr-1's and the brake track is galling up already.. Not real impressed..

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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby singlespeedscott » Sat May 24, 2014 8:23 pm

dale79 wrote:1 ride on my brand new pslr-1's and the brake track is galling up already.. Not real impressed..

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What do you mean by galled up?
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby dale79 » Sat May 24, 2014 8:25 pm

The alloy is tearing off the surface.. Look at the bottom 1/3 of the brake track
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby singlespeedscott » Sat May 24, 2014 8:26 pm

dale79 wrote:The alloy is tearing off the surface.. Look at the bottom 1/3 of the brake track

What pads are you using?
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby dale79 » Sat May 24, 2014 8:26 pm

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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby singlespeedscott » Sat May 24, 2014 9:24 pm

Stupid question. Are the pads clean?
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby dale79 » Sun May 25, 2014 5:39 am

The bikes 39 km old
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Lukeyboy » Sun May 25, 2014 11:02 am

Did you go hard at it the first time round (braking hard on new pads and rim) or did you scrub the pads/rims in (being cautious to avoid heavy and fast breaking until they were scrubbed in)?
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby dale79 » Sun May 25, 2014 4:00 pm

I get on the bike and I ride it.. if I need to use the brakes I do.. they are on a propel which even with the upgraded brakes still dosent stop that great lol

if their wheels cant hold up then there is something wrong, all the fulcrums and shimano wheels I have had in the past had no problems at all with the same pads etc..
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby R12RT » Sun May 25, 2014 4:05 pm

dale79 wrote:I get on the bike and I ride it.. if I need to use the brakes I do.. they are on a propel which even with the upgraded brakes still dosent stop that great lol

if their wheels cant hold up then there is something wrong, all the fulcrums and shimano wheels I have had in the past had no problems at all with the same pads etc..


The PSL-1 wheels had done ~800km when I took them off my Propel.

The brake tracks on my wheel still look new.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby dale79 » Sun May 25, 2014 4:06 pm

these are PSLR-1, not sure what the difference is.. they are standard fitment on a TCR SL0 I just swapped them between bikes as my propel came with the C50 tubs..
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Le Mong » Sun May 25, 2014 4:35 pm

Did you use the shimano carbon pads on them?
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Lukeyboy » Sun May 25, 2014 7:05 pm

dale79 wrote:I get on the bike and I ride it.. if I need to use the brakes I do.. they are on a propel which even with the upgraded brakes still dosent stop that great lol

if their wheels cant hold up then there is something wrong, all the fulcrums and shimano wheels I have had in the past had no problems at all with the same pads etc..


The point I was getting at was that if they are brand spanking new - especially new brake pads on new rims - is that you should break them in first due to resins and protective agents applied after manufacturing. Similar to spanking new tires having less grip than ones slightly worn in due to the resins applied.

Today my PSLR1 Aero wheels cracked the 9000km mark. And I really put those brakes and wheels through the ring without issues.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby dale79 » Sun May 25, 2014 7:09 pm

taking it easy on them is only going to delay the time taken for the soft alloy to turn to poo..

FWIW the pair of PSL-0 I had a few years ago didn't have these problems..
will be contacting giant about it tomorrow IMHO buying a $8k bike should have wheels that don't fall apart the first time they are used..
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Lukeyboy » Sun May 25, 2014 8:11 pm

All I said was take it easy on them as they are brand new and unused components. All you have to do is run them in which should be an easy ride or two. Just because its an 8k bike does not mean you are immune from this. I've heard and seen bikes/wheels where people have gotten caught up in the "I have the same expensive gear the pros use" mentality and have just destroyed them from misuse/without proper knowledge and understanding.

If you have a wheel respoked or built up do you then ride the wheel into the ground or do you retension/retrue the wheel again after a couple weeks of riding?
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Le Mong » Sun May 25, 2014 9:39 pm

Haha haha haha breaking in alloy brake tracks. Yeah, no.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby biker jk » Sun May 25, 2014 10:09 pm

Le Mong wrote:Haha haha haha breaking in alloy brake tracks. Yeah, no.


+1. There's no need to break them in at all.
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Re: Giant Psl-1 wheels be warned!!

Postby Le Mong » Sun May 25, 2014 10:11 pm

biker jk wrote:
Le Mong wrote:Haha haha haha breaking in alloy brake tracks. Yeah, no.


+1. There's no need to break them in at all.


If they are soft no amount of breaking in will fix that. It's just Giants sh#t attempt at building wheels and cutting costs. It's just unfortunate for them that they can't seem to shake this issue.
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