Out of curiosity I had my LBS weigh a 2016 TCR Advanced Pro 0 and a Propel Advanced Pro 0.
The Propel looks like outstanding value to me in that I value the Ultegra Di2 over the Dura-ace mechanical of the TCR, although I've taken neither for a test ride so that's all for nothing until I do. Riding enjoyment is not all about spec and weights, but it's an interest until I'm ready to put down a deposit on something.
The weights both in medium:
TCR Advanced Pro 0: 6.8kg.
Propel Advanced Pro 0: 8.5kg.
Now I'd give the propel a bit more weight because it's "aero" but I've seen numbers bandied around the internet of them weighing around 7kg. Clearly with some different spec components than a stock Advanced Pro 0.
What weights are bicycles.net.au members seeing for their Propels? What modifications have you made to get the weight down if any?
How lacking in "aero" is the new 2016 TCR compared to a Propel and realistically how much difference does it make? I understand I am the least aerodynamic part of my bicycle.
I found this aerodynamic comparison on weight-weenies. In 2014 it didn't look like a significant difference which makes you wonder why people would take the extra weight?
2016 TCR vs Propel weight comparisons
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Re: 2016 TCR vs Propel weight comparisons
Postby slian » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:35 am
The LBS weighted a Small 2015 Propel Adv Pro 0 at about 7.5-7.6 kg for me.
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Re: 2016 TCR vs Propel weight comparisons
Postby deadrat » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:07 pm
Anything 8.5kg is a brick. Aero = marketing.
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Re: 2016 TCR vs Propel weight comparisons
Postby cameronp » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:52 pm
Are you sure that Propel weight is correct? I weighed my aluminium Defy when I first bought it, it was around 9kg with pedals. (Of course, that was before I started to put heavy bits on it. Like my body.) Surely a carbon fibre Ultegra wondermachine would have be significantly lighter!
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Re: 2016 TCR vs Propel weight comparisons
Postby R12RT » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:37 pm
My ML 2015 Propel Advanced 1 weighs in at 7.8kg with Fulcrum Racing 3's and pedals.
My Oppy is 1kg heavier with the same wheels.
My Oppy is 1kg heavier with the same wheels.
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Re: 2016 TCR vs Propel weight comparisons
Postby jerrah » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:15 pm
I was surprised so I got him to weigh it twice. Both bikes come in much lighter than my carbon Defy. Maybe the wheels are a direction to cut some weight? There is the SL Propel's as well which would be lighter.cameronp wrote:Are you sure that Propel weight is correct?
I assume the 2016 TCR Advanced SL should be lighter again.
If I get a chance I'll get them to re-weigh them all. It's probably all moot measuring mediums as I need a large. No large frames were on the floor oddly enough?
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Re: 2016 TCR vs Propel weight comparisons
Postby lannes » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:16 pm
My Propel Advanced SL - weighs 6.45 kg in the following configuration
Frame: Giant Propel Advanced SL - small
Stem: Giant Contact SLR - 90mm
Bars: Giant Contact SLR Aero - 42cm
Bar Tape: Deda Trafornato
Seat: Fizik Arione 00
Pedals: Time Xpresso 15
Groupset: Dura Ace 9000 mechanical
Chain: KMC x11sl
Brakes: Fouriers BR DX-005 v-brakes
Brake Pads: Reynolds Cryo Blue - Power
Bottom Bracket: Wheels MFG, BB86/92 Thread Together Angular Contact BB
Wheelset: Reynolds Aero 58 tubular
Tyres: Vittoria CX Corsa 25mm tubular
Cables Outer: Powercordz Swift
Cables Inner: Aican Black
Frame: Giant Propel Advanced SL - small
Stem: Giant Contact SLR - 90mm
Bars: Giant Contact SLR Aero - 42cm
Bar Tape: Deda Trafornato
Seat: Fizik Arione 00
Pedals: Time Xpresso 15
Groupset: Dura Ace 9000 mechanical
Chain: KMC x11sl
Brakes: Fouriers BR DX-005 v-brakes
Brake Pads: Reynolds Cryo Blue - Power
Bottom Bracket: Wheels MFG, BB86/92 Thread Together Angular Contact BB
Wheelset: Reynolds Aero 58 tubular
Tyres: Vittoria CX Corsa 25mm tubular
Cables Outer: Powercordz Swift
Cables Inner: Aican Black
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