TCR Disc coming for MY17
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TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby biker jk » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:38 pm
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby rodneycc » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:00 pm
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby softy » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:35 pm
i just can't see the value just to have discs.
but hey that just me.
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby Bluejay87 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:07 pm
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby rodneycc » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:23 pm
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby softy » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:10 am
Bluejay87 wrote:Yeah less than 6k will get you a brand new giant with di2 and nice wheels. Discs isn't going to change that much....
okay maybe Giants are good value, but 6k is without bling wheels. If you want your wheels to match your bike, 2-3k extra. So by the time you buy a few accessories, 10k.
I personally will not spend more than 5k, last years model or secondhand. I got the most fantastic bike for 5k. Bottecchia emme2 2013 (from a shop) like new not a mark on it, handmade in italy with chorus grouppo and record compact with reynolds MVT 32 wheels all fitted ready to go! Under 5k.
bikes just de-value so much, unless your a professional or got heaps of money, is it worth it, will you go faster?
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby li2099 » Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:59 pm
Light and now just as good braking as a defy SL!
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby Bluejay87 » Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:50 pm
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby jasonc » Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:43 pm
then you add on about 300g at each end for the additional weight of the rotor/brake assemblyDuck! wrote:Not a lot. I'm not sure about the Advanced/Pro, but at SL level the Defy is actually a lighter frame than the TCR thanks to its finer tube profiles.
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby biker jk » Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:08 pm
I believe the additional weight is closer to 400g-450g. Indeed, Hopetech built up an S-Works Tarmac disc alongside the caliper brake version and the extra weight was 440g.jasonc wrote:then you add on about 300g at each end for the additional weight of the rotor/brake assemblyDuck! wrote:Not a lot. I'm not sure about the Advanced/Pro, but at SL level the Defy is actually a lighter frame than the TCR thanks to its finer tube profiles.
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby Duck! » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:13 pm
That's irrelevant. The question was, with my emphasis:biker jk wrote:I believe the additional weight is closer to 400g-450g. Indeed, Hopetech built up an S-Works Tarmac disc alongside the caliper brake version and the extra weight was 440g.jasonc wrote:then you add on about 300g at each end for the additional weight of the rotor/brake assemblyDuck! wrote:Not a lot. I'm not sure about the Advanced/Pro, but at SL level the Defy is actually a lighter frame than the TCR thanks to its finer tube profiles.
. Over the last few years prior to the Defy diverging with discs, the spec sheets of the two have been virtually identical aside from the frame. Therefore, when the TCR gains discs, the specs come back together, so we return to the only difference being the frame. And the Defy has the edge, at least at the Advanced SL level. The Advanced frames (which are the same for the Pro models, only the forks differ) I would hazard a guess would be very similar.Bluejay87 wrote:Any idea what the equivalent weight difference between defy and TCR disc versions would be?
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby Bluejay87 » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:32 pm
Sounds like I'd be better off getting a deal on a 15/16 defy disc than waiting for a 17 TCR disc and paying the associated premium.
Have never ridden either frame before though so will need to test first to make sure I don't prefer the TCR.
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby biker jk » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:47 pm
I hope you're not responding to my response to Jason which was a correction to how much disc brakes add to the weight of a bike and made no reference to the relative weight of a TCR disc versus Defy disc.Duck! wrote: That's irrelevant. The question was, with my emphasis:. Over the last few years prior to the Defy diverging with discs, the spec sheets of the two have been virtually identical aside from the frame. Therefore, when the TCR gains discs, the specs come back together, so we return to the only difference being the frame. And the Defy has the edge, at least at the Advanced SL level. The Advanced frames (which are the same for the Pro models, only the forks differ) I would hazard a guess would be very similar.Bluejay87 wrote:Any idea what the equivalent weight difference between defy and TCR disc versions would be?
In any case, the TCR Advanced SL frame (medium size) weighs 856g and fork 302g, versus 890g and 370g, respectively, for the Defy Advanced SL.
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
Postby Duck! » Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:03 pm
Which was still irrelevant, given the question was specifically regarding the difference, between the two disc models. In any case, the TCR Disc frame isn't released into the wild yet, so none of us know exactly what it weighs yet.biker jk wrote: I hope you're not responding to my response to Jason which was a correction to how much disc brakes add to the weight of a bike and made no reference to the relative weight of a TCR disc versus Defy disc.
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Re: TCR Disc coming for MY17
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