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BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby Mububban » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:07 pm

The TeamMachine SLR02 with mechanical 8000 Ultegra is on my test drive list when 2018 stock arrives. I'm on a $5000 budget.

Are they as good as online reviews claim? I'm after something lightweight for hills riding, however the bike I end up with will likely be whatever feels the best to me as well. And I do love the look of dropped seat stays.

Can anyone offer some long term feedback on a TeamMachine?
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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby flex5150 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:48 pm

Spend the extra get an SLR 01. Ive owned 3 and still have one. IMO best do all bike ever built. The difference between the 01 and lower is significant. Weight, response, road feel, confort all go up with the 01. Look for a good second hand 01 if you cant afford a new one.... or drop the spec Id rather an 01 with ultegra mechanical than an 02 w/Di2. you can always upgrade bit later.

if your a larger size theres a 2014 size 58 on fleabay running RED killer buy at $2800. (not mine im a size 51)
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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby scirocco » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:09 am

If you are looking at a 2018 model, no-one will be able to give you much long-term feedback, as it's a completely new design (in 2017).

Even if you go for a rim brake version, you get the same geometry as the disk brake version, because they didn't want the hassle of two different geometries.

Unfortunately this means the rim brake version has been compromised by the changes they have to make to fit the disk rear wheel in. Chainstay length is significantly longer than what BMCs have had for donkey's years, and this is the single worst thing you can do to the handling.

Having said that, people will no doubt still be winning pro races on it.

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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby jaseyjase » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:03 pm

Ive had my SLR01 since 2012, its a 2011 frame.

Absolutely love it - light, stiff, sharp handling. Looks are a bonus, but i do pefer it aesthetically compared to all the other brands.

Every time i contemplate upgrading, a quick ride reminds me how much i love this bike, and that i have absolutely zero reasons to upgrade, its just simply perfect in my eyes (and hands)

My only reason for upgrade is i want to run eTap or Di2 now and want a cleaner build, ie less guides etc.
But even if i do upgrade, ill be converting my current one into an SS to commute on during the summer, or wall hang the frame, i love it too much.

But agree with Flex, id get an SLR01 and update group/wheels later.
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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby flex5150 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:24 pm

Jase you can have the cable stops on your 2011 removed and then run Etap.
Sirocco didnt know about the chainstays thats got to suck.
I was thinking of adding a 2018 to the fleet but now......
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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby jaseyjase » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:49 pm

flex5150 wrote:Jase you can have the cable stops on your 2011 removed and then run Etap.


really? arnt they riveted on? which means i need to drill the rivets etc..ill be honest in that i havnt exactly had a close up look.

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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby nickobec » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:39 pm


Luke Pledger's SLR01 after an incidence 200m from the end of the Melbourne to Warrnambool and his replacement frame (within the week from BMC Australia)

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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby flex5150 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:02 pm

Correct Jase, needs a little surgery and paint but do- able if you know the right people...shame your not on the east coast.
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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby Drizt » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:14 pm

My 2018 SLR01 Disc is a joy to ride. Somehow it is stiff as hell, acceleration feels strong, but it is super compliant. It is the most comfortable bike I have ridden (still an aggressive position) and I've ridden Steel, Ti, Carbon and the occasional Alloy bike.

My only negative is that it is taking me a long time to get used to the 'twitchy' steering feel. The bike is a lot more aggressive than my flexibility probably allows right now, so perhaps I'm not getting enough weight over the front wheel. *shrugs*

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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby flex5150 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:42 pm

Drizt wrote:My only negative is that it is taking me a long time to get used to the 'twitchy' steering feel. The bike is a lot more aggressive than my flexibility probably allows right now, so perhaps I'm not getting enough weight over the front wheel. *shrugs*


so you have dropped your stack height?

suprised you say twitchy. i ride a 51 and they are very slack in the head angle compared with a propel izalco max or madone ssl.
its my preferred descending bike...thoughts
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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby Drizt » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:03 pm

I've owned:

Defy
Propel
TCR Disc
SLR01 Disc
Lynskey Sportive Disc
Salsa Vaya Disc

The SLR01 is easily the twitchy'est.
Loved my Propel but wanted discs. The new propel discs were on my to buy list until I saw the paint jobs :/

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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby scirocco » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:25 pm

I'd be curious to hear from anyone that's ridden both pre-2017 and post 2017 models and can compare them. They completely re-designed the geometry (starting with 2017) with longer seatstays (to fit the disk brake models) so have probably had to make the front end sharper / more twitchy to compensate for making the back end more sluggish.

I have a 2011 model (same geometry as up to 2016) and the handling is really sensitive to fore/aft seat position. Go forward and it does get twitchy with a shorter stem. Move the seat back a bit and it steers with your butt, you don't have to steer, you just think about shifting your weight and it does what you want. I'm guessing they've lost that with the longer seatstays on the 2017 onwards models.

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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby Drizt » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:26 pm

Don't over think small changes like that. Go for test ride.

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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby JohnAng » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:45 pm

Drizt wrote:Loved my Propel but wanted discs. The new propel discs were on my to buy list until I saw the paint jobs :/


yes, they are horrid paint jobs, but would love to ride one to compare to my 2017 sl0 etap

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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby Drizt » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:05 pm

JohnAng wrote:
Drizt wrote:Loved my Propel but wanted discs. The new propel discs were on my to buy list until I saw the paint jobs :/


yes, they are horrid paint jobs, but would love to ride one to compare to my 2017 sl0 etap


I hear very good things about them. Saw a few of them up at 3 peaks this year.

How have you found the etap? I tried a BMC SLR01 rim brake jobbie with eTap. I found the shifting easy to get used to but found it a little clunky in shift quality. I asked the LBS if it was set up right and he just said they are all like that.

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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby flex5150 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:10 pm

Drizt wrote:I tried a BMC SLR01 rim brake jobbie with eTap. I found the shifting easy to get used to but found it a little clunky in shift quality. I asked the LBS if it was set up right and he just said they are all like that.

^^^
Crappy mechanic, nothing wrong with mine. and I have the same bike you tried. Etap isnt as snappy as red22 in the down shift upshifts are precise but can get a little raspy if your drivetrain isnt clean and a bit old
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Re: BMC TeamMachine feedback

Postby JohnAng » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:58 am

Drizt wrote:How have you found the etap? I tried a BMC SLR01 rim brake jobbie with eTap. I found the shifting easy to get used to but found it a little clunky in shift quality. I asked the LBS if it was set up right and he just said they are all like that.


When i purchased mine, i test rode both the etap and the dura ace Di2 versions and found them to be almost identical. The di2 was slightly quicker but both were brilliant. I do like that with etap its like paddle shifters in the car. left for down gear right for up gear and together for front chainring.

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