Poll - Ranks, do we need them?
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Poll - Ranks, do we need them?
Postby AUbicycles » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:07 am
Also - please comment whether you feel that mods should have something graphical (aside from stars) that highlights them as mods. Also not required however would be an identifying factor.
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Postby toolonglegs » Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:05 am
The mods already have the "super mod" and "moderater" that get written under their names...do they need more?.
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Postby Kalgrm » Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:31 am
Besides, we don't need to encourage post whores, do we?
Mod should keep the symbols they have - it helps them assert authority when needed.
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Postby sogood » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:19 am
The problem with assigning "expert", "senior member" and similar titles is that it creates a hierarchy where noobs and "junior" may become reluctant to challenge their views. But as we all know, experts and senior can get it all wrong and often have their views entrenched with a particular angle ie. Bias. So from this point of view, this labeling may in fact be detrimental to the flow of discussions. Given how BNA has operated and what I have experienced in other mature and objectively moderated forum, trolls who wants to take a discussion to a ridiculous tangent are usually dealt with promptly, causing little negative impact. At the end of the day, a knowledgeable person will always standout in a discussion and professionals can decide on how they want to advertise themselves in their signature.
The reality is, our reputation is only as good (or bad) as our last post.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby Kalgrm » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:44 am
X-wing - you just voted to keep them then, since the question is "should we get rid of them?"X-wing wrote:I voted no, mostly because I don't see what value it adds. We know who the pros are on the forum, and I think we also know who to rely on for excellent information.
I also agree that the stars appear to be duplicating the post counts.
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Postby brauluver » Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:57 am
Granted a lot of my post count is from link the photo thread which means I've contributed a lot of fluff.I do however try to be serious and add value when I can to a thread.
Every one gets a bit precious about status I think.I always keep my ego in check by remembering that this is only an internet forum(cyber world) full of personal opinions, preferences and ideas that are mostly insignificant in the real world and amount to zip outside this community.We represent a minority of all Australia's cyclists and like to chatter amongst ourselves and air our opinions.It's really not that important in the real world/daily life of a member if some one else has a blue star.
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Postby Dave R32 » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:22 pm
The senior members are easy to spot by post count, then its up to me to decide if their opinions / posts are worth reading etc a system of stars isnt going to make it easier.
Admin and Mods are also easily found and I have to say do a great job keeping the forums running nicely.
As for experts EG: Alex Simmons/RST; on a car detailing forum I helped start we used an avatar of a polishing machine to denote a professional detailer maybe here you could use a little bike avatar or similar.
We also have a rule that any re-sellers or their staff must identify themselves either by user name EG: I am Dave_Waxit or in their signature. This helps the "normal" user identify posts by these people as they could be commerically skewed. Mind you we have some very emotional people when it comes to products and product arguements are common.
I find this forum is very well run and the members are friendly and tolerant of new members, it has a great "feel" to it so to speak.
Cheers
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Postby Kev365428 » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:35 pm
Was meant only to be an example, not the actual wording, but point taken.brauluver wrote:If he changes it to that then the whole thing is skewed, as a yes vote to get rid of em will , would become yes i want a star rating.Kev365428 wrote:Chris,
Make it simple - "Do you want the star rating?"
Kev.
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Postby X-wing » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:37 pm
Darn! That's what happens when you only read the title of the thread, and not the question!X-wing - you just voted to keep them then, since the question is "should we get rid of them?"
Now I feel like on of the Florida voters who accidentally voted for George Bush!
Thanks for letting me know Kal.
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Postby HappyHumber » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:12 pm
Drop the stars... as suggested by a few others, I think without them, things are little more egalitarian in appearance and more encouraging for new comers. The text description is sufficient I think.
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Postby Kalgrm » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:37 pm
I think you need to run the poll again with less ambiguous phrasing in the question. Too many people were confused by the wording to give an accurate assessment of the members' views.
(You've got a different question in the thread title to the poll question.)
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Postby brauluver » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:02 pm
On that note:Kalgrm wrote:Christopher,
I think you need to run the poll again with less ambiguous phrasing in the question. Too many people were confused by the wording to give an accurate assessment of the members' views.
(You've got a different question in the thread title to the poll question.)
Cheers,
Graeme
I realise that this is the appropriate sub forum for this, but would it get a broader response if it was posted or linked to the General discussion area?
27 votes to date is a bit low for a representative count.
Not trying to teach you guys to suck eggs or anything, just thinking out loud.
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Postby il padrone » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:34 pm
The stars are not necessary for ego value. The titles aren't needed either for a 'Senior Member' as the post count tells people this. But mods and supermods should be identified as those in authority.
Well I don't know who all the pros are. I would like to have these experts identified as such, if their status is known to moderators. That ensures their opinions maybe respected, and possible biases made clear.X-wing wrote:We know who the pros are on the forum
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Postby AUbicycles » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:15 am
I feel that the vote count - and take into account at least 3 accidental "No's" - is a small cross section, but still representative.
That means - The stars go.
Has anyone got anything against giving the mods back a bicycle - but without the stars? Previously we had the square with a person holding a bike - I would simply it though it is aimed to create an identifier.
Can I keep the naming - senior member - or should this go as well?
Thanks for taking the time to provide feedback on this.
Cheers
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Postby brauluver » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:08 pm
I say lets get rid of it as well now the stars have gone and just be Egalitarian,as that's the feel created by this poll.AUbicycles wrote: Can I keep the naming - senior member - or should this go as well?
Thanks for taking the time to provide feedback on this.
Cheers
Christopher
anyone care to second that?
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