Ultegra 11spd

Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby singlespeedscott » Wed May 01, 2013 3:49 pm

What a load of hoopla about 52-36 chainrings and 11 speed. You don't need a new crank design to do that Shimano. Just do what Campagnolo did and make some new rings for your existing design. Which is also better looking IMO.

Such a great design that SRAM even copied it.
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby Xplora » Wed May 01, 2013 4:41 pm

^^ I think the point was that they wanted to reduce crank weight, and in the process discovered that they could do compact and standard cranks via the same BCD. Ultimately, it's about choice and convenience. Shimano is the MAJOR OEM supplier, and this will make life easier for the rest of us.
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby DavidTomic » Sat May 11, 2013 9:48 am

I don't normally pay a lot of attention to product cycles etc, so I'm just wondering if anybody has an educated guess/opinion on when we might be likely to see a revised Ultegra Di2 system?

I'm (very) slowly building up a new frameset at the moment, and now I'm torn on what to do with the groupset! :?
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby Xplora » Sat May 11, 2013 1:51 pm

Hopefully they pull the trigger on hydro as well as UDi2 in July?
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby HAKS » Sat May 11, 2013 10:48 pm

DavidTomic wrote:I don't normally pay a lot of attention to product cycles etc, so I'm just wondering if anybody has an educated guess/opinion on when we might be likely to see a revised Ultegra Di2 system?

I'm (very) slowly building up a new frameset at the moment, and now I'm torn on what to do with the groupset! :?


If the new mechanical Ultegra is slated for Sep release i'd guess Di2 will follow a month or two later. I'm sure Shimano are trying to get it out on 2014 bikes but as with the new Dura ace I suspect the first bikes with it on them won't hit our shores till early 2014.
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Re: Ultegra turns it up to 11

Postby Duck! » Wed May 22, 2013 8:29 pm

Ross wrote:
Marty Moose wrote:Gee the previous Ultegra must have been a really poor groupset in order to get such improvements on the new one. Shame on you Shimano for releasing 6700 obviously a second rate effort hope the designers were sacked. :roll: :roll:

Marketing :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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It is pretty average actually, as is DA 7900. DA 7800 is streets ahead of both, haven't ridden with DA 9000 to compare.

I haven't ridden DA 9000, but built a few bikes with it, and it's vastly superior to 7900 (which along with its 6700 & 5700 derivatives is definitely a backward step from its predecessor). It's reasonable to expect, given Shimano's history of trickling down through the groupsets, that 6800 will be a very similar jump in the right direction.

(My roadie is specced with 6600 Ultegra, and that too is a heap smoother than 7900/6700/5700).
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby jasonc » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:30 am

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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby Xplora » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:34 pm

Thunderbirds are GO :shock:
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby jasonc » Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:23 am

Xplora wrote:Thunderbirds are GO :shock:


not the di2 kit though :(
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby Xplora » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:31 pm

And they don't have hydro brakes or a compact or... ;)
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby jasonc » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:14 pm

Xplora wrote:And they don't have hydro brakes or a compact or... ;)



i've been umming and ahhing. I've decided I don't really want hydro at the moment
don't need a compact

but geez it's heavy :lol:
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby HAKS » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:34 pm

jasonc wrote:
Xplora wrote:Thunderbirds are GO :shock:


not the di2 kit though :(


Has di2 even been announced for 6800?
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby DavidTomic » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:14 pm

HAKS wrote:Has di2 even been announced for 6800?


Not yet .... and it's making me sad! :(
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby biker jk » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:21 pm

Xplora wrote:And they don't have hydro brakes or a compact or... ;)


Ultegra 6800 compact is available.

http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;navigation=1;product=59334;page=3;menu=1000,4,26;mid=0;pgc=8:2721
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby ozdavo » Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:27 pm

HAKS wrote:
jasonc wrote:
Xplora wrote:Thunderbirds are GO :shock:


not the di2 kit though :(


Has di2 even been announced for 6800?

Not sure about announced, but it has been shown, see images on post 1.


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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby HAKS » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:49 pm

ozdavo wrote:Not sure about announced, but it has been shown, see images on post 1



Nice spot. I do remember seeing them now when I posted
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby HAKS » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:08 pm

So looks like 11ps 6870 Di2 may feature disc brakes :shock:

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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby Xplora » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:34 pm

HYDRAULIC disc brakes... top of the first pic ;)
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby brett.hooker » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:11 pm

Woah... Nice...
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby Sven Nijs » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:43 pm

ozdavo wrote:Not sure about announced, but it has been shown, see images on post 1.

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... ook-37758/
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby HAKS » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:00 am

Sven Nijs wrote:
ozdavo wrote:Not sure about announced, but it has been shown, see images on post 1.

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... ook-37758/


press embargo expired today so expect every site to have some coverage over it within hours.
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby Duck! » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:10 pm

Shimano released photos on their own Farcebook page today, so the wraps are officially off. Interestingly, the hydro brakes (including Di2 shifters) go under the name R785 rather than Ultegra, so they're being marketed as parallel components, rather than incorprated in the main groupset.

The "E-Tube" wiring means that they're compatible with all Di2 kits except the original 7970 Dura Ace series.
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby DavidTomic » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:37 pm

Nice ...

I'll be ordering myself a set as soon they start actually hitting the shelves

My poor frame was starting to look a bit sad without any groupset attached!
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby Xplora » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:57 pm

Bike24 has the 6800 compact crank "in stock" maybe for only 250 bucks??? Would definitely solve my "want standard/compact options"
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Re: Ultegra 11spd

Postby jasonc » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:46 pm

Xplora wrote:Bike24 has the 6800 compact crank "in stock" maybe for only 250 bucks??? Would definitely solve my "want standard/compact options"


can I use the 6800 crank with the 6700 derailleur/chain?
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