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Shimano PD-M424 pedals

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:08 am
by Mububban
Anyone use this style of pedals? I'm after some pedals I can either clip into for longer rides, or ride in normal shoes to pop down to the shops. All part of trying to use the bike more often, making it as easy as possible :)

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These Shimano pedals can be found for $50 delivered online. Anyone used them? My shoes are a Lake street style shoe where the cleat is recessed into the rubber sole so you can walk normally in them, although they do crunch as you walk along. Hoping these pedals would still be okay with this style of shoe?

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Re: Shimano PD-M424 pedals

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:36 am
by mitzikatzi
That style of pedal (the center bit) doesn't like mud ie you can't unclip when they are covered with mud.
These are a bit better Shimano DX M647 Pedals
Neither are designed to be ridden unclipped. The cage is for support when clipped in. The center bit of the pedal is raised and it is easy for your foot to slip off when ridden unclipped. This is bad especially when in traffic :)

These might be a better option Shimano A530 SPD Single Sided Touring Pedals or Shimano PD-T780 XT MTB SPD Trekking Pedals

I do not like combo pedals. On one bike I have flats for normal shoes on my other bikes I have clip less pedals and just accept that to ride the bike I put on my cycling shoes.

Re: Shimano PD-M424 pedals

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:55 am
by rjk
+1 to the a530 I used them on commuter for over 2 years I find them excellent

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Re: Shimano PD-M424 pedals

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:16 am
by visrealm
I use A530s on my commuter. They're not light, but work well with either Spds or flats. I often ride TO work in flats to reduce getting changed time. Then wear my Spds for the trip home (the climb).

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Re: Shimano PD-M424 pedals

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:51 am
by adaml
mitzikatzi wrote: Neither are designed to be ridden unclipped. The cage is for support when clipped in. The center bit of the pedal is raised and it is easy for your foot to slip off when ridden unclipped. This is bad especially when in traffic :)
I haven't looked this up, but I believe these are designed to work with normal shoes - the bit with the clipless mechanism is spring-loaded and retracts down into the pedal cage when stepped on in normal shoes. That said, it can still create a noticeable lump under your shoe which can be annoying. (This is all based on second hand reports, I've never owned this type of pedal.)

The M530 and XT and XTR 'trail' pedals are as mitzikatzi describes, despite looking somewhere similar to these.

All SPD pedals will work with recessed cleats as this is part of the SPD standard.

Re: Shimano PD-M424 pedals

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:31 am
by mitzikatzi
Can't use with normal shoes as the clip mechanism protrudes permanently above cage: when you push down the 'pop-up' bit, the back of the mechanism rises, so the ball of your foot rests permanently on the raised steel mechanism
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That was my experience with the limited time I spent riding these pedals.

Re: Shimano PD-M424 pedals

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:23 am
by eeksll
I have used Shimano DX M647 Pedals, I didn't like them very much. With my spd shoe clipped in, the cage presses against the bottom of the shoe (as you would expect) but this messes with the float, make the float feel very stiff.

With sneakers I found them only a slight bit better than riding something like the m520 with sneakers. The cage doesn't really provide any extra traction which I think is the improtant part, it is a LITTLE bit more comfrtable. It steel feels like a lumpy pedal.

Re: Shimano PD-M424 pedals

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:36 am
by Mububban
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'll see what else the store has in stock, if possible I'll try and demo the pedals before buying. If the protruding lump isn't really really horrible, I might still be able to get away with it as I probably would only do trips under 4km each way in normal shoes, any more than that and I'd probably use my proper riding shoes.

Re: Shimano PD-M424 pedals

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:28 am
by dudleygb
I agree with the above comments.
I tried to go the same way, but to be honest, there's no such thing as a dual purpose pedal, that does all the jobs well.
I got these from this ebay shop for $61 free delivery. I had to bid, but I stopped at $61 and won the item. Took me a few tries but I eventually won it. A real quality pedal. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Shimano-Deor ... 3f2ef359db" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What I might suggest is get a separate pair of shoes that are easier to use, that use the same cleats set. I saw a range of awesome, affordable shoes that still clip in to this pedal.
Maybe easier to change shoes for the shop and a serious ride than change the pedal?

I would definitely say just stick with either a flat pedal or a clip pedal. Trying to get it right in one package might just prove to disappointing. But if you do get something that works for you, I'm interested to hear.