Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
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Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby Dr_Mutley » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:43 am
Ive recently had to replace my bottom bracket a few times, so i thought i would put up a quick guide on what to buy, and how to do it...
Theres alot of good info on the nuances of doing this job, or fixing creaking PF30 BBs over on the cervelo forum... so much of the credit for this needs to go to the guys over there....
Removal of PF30 BB Cups:
DO NOT BUY ANY OTHER TOOL BUT THIS!
http://www.parktool.com/product/bottom- ... 0-bbt-30-3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The important aspect of buying this removal tool from Park Tool as it comes with 2 bushings that allow u to make an inexpensive press out of some threaded rod.
Other tools required:
Hammer
Adjustable spanner
Loctite Primer 7649 (Primer N) and Loctite 609 (if you want to loctite the cups into the shell to reduce creaking)
Threaded rod/nuts/washes for pressing in new PF30 cups/bearings (as outlined below) - Cost: 5/8 threaded rod from Bunnings $7; 4 nuts & 2 large washes $3.
Installation:
All is contained here in the following link. Ive added a couple of my own pics to show any idiot can do it. If you wish to loctite the cups in, spray the loctite N primer on the BB shell, put loctite 609 bearing retaining compound on the cups and press them in with your threaded rod and bushings
JOB DONE!!
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby warthog1 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:29 pm
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby warthog1 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:45 pm
The creak meister in all its glory, probably shivering in fear at the sight of me and tools in close proximity
about to have a go at the non-drive side bearing. I reckon the bike is really scared now. I was a bit anyway. Hoping the bloody things would come out easily enough.
about to do the drive side bearing
The bearings came out fairly easily with some firm taps with that dead blow hammer in the earlier photo.
You can see the new sram bearing has a nice rubber seal that the old fsa goer did not. Hopefully they will be creak free and will last a while
Loctite and alcohol wipes used to clean up the surfaces prior to installation
A couple of photos of the bearings installed courtesy of the Dr Mutley bbright bearing installer (patent pending)
The drive side bearing went in a bit tighter than the non drive side and was a bit noisy as it slowly seated itself. I tightened it up until the lips of both cups were flush with the frame. I managed to resist using my normal torque setting of strip the thread and then back it off half a turn
I'll leave the press insitu until tomorrow and then install the cranks again.
Many thanks to Dr Mutley the ACF Cervelo guru
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby warthog1 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:47 pm
Crank set back on today and success
Back to being a normal Cervelo- stiff,fast and silent
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby Nobody » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:47 pm
I'm glad the install went well, but have you given any thought to how you are going to remove the bearings next time? Usually when Loctite says "High strength" they mean it. High strength usually means can't be removed with hand tools. I'm intrigued by this and hope someone has a good answer. I know I'm not the biggest fan of either carbon or press fit (too pragmatic for either) but I still hope a solution is available. Has anyone done this process twice yet?warthog1 wrote:Loctite and alcohol wipes used to clean up the surfaces prior to installation
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby warthog1 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:41 am
There's always the risk of it getting run over by the car if it won't come out I guess.
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby warthog1 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:37 am
From http://forums.cervelo.com/forums/t/9738 ... ageIndex=2
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby Dr_Mutley » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:22 pm
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby Nobody » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:32 pm
Threaded versions of the newer standards seems like a good idea to me. The press fit standards obviously aren't as trouble free in many cases. Fortunately for me, I can't see any major problem with 24mm steel spindles and standard external bearings.
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby Dr_Mutley » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:34 pm
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby warthog1 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:34 pm
I managed to work out how to change external cups myself but couldn't have done these without several pm's from Dr Mutley.
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby Nobody » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:43 pm
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby warthog1 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:51 pm
Edit: well that is one of my stupider posts. Derrrr maybe like the square taper bottom bracket was screwed in. FFS thanks for being polite to the idiot Nobody
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby Nobody » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:27 pm
My point is if they can make a BSA to 30mm spindle adaptor, they can certainly make a press-fit frame shell a little larger and make the bearing shells screw (all the way) in instead. However, now the press-fit "horse has bolted", the manufacturers/designers are unlikely to go back to screw-in designs as they might add a few grams. Which makes me wonder where the weight-at-all-costs philosophy will lead the cycling industry for racing bikes next.
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby warthog1 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:39 pm
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby cyclotaur » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:15 am
I was told by a quality bike repairer that he never uses locktite on any bearings.Dr_Mutley wrote:I've removed mine after being loctited in with 609 & primer, and they came out easily, without much more force with the hammer. So nothing to worry about there... Next time I take my BB out I'm just going to use some DuraAce grease to refit, and compare.
My own experience is that most creaks are eliminated by just removing the cranks and cleaning everything thoroughly, and that when the bearings are actually shot you'll know all about it. That is, it won't just be a little creaking .... mine were suddenly screeching like a banshee, going from a small creak on one ride to the full catastrophe on the next.
Only needed to change the bearings once in over 20,000kms so far.
<crosses fingers, touches wood etc>
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Re: Essential Bottom Bracket tools for Cevelo BBright Frames
Postby warthog1 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:30 pm
Calling Dr_MutleyDr_Mutley wrote:I tend to agree, carbon press fit shells are obviously much lighter, but for the added hassle they sometimes can present, I much prefer my older threaded shells...
I have a midcompact 5800 crankset to put in.
I have a plastic 24mm shimano spindle adapter from wheels mfg.
However on removal of the SRAM cranks the drive side pressfit bearing is very rough and needs replacing
Have you or anyone else used one of these?
http://wheelsmfg.com/bbright-out-angula ... black.html
Looks like a good, but slightly exxy, solution.
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