Vivente World Randonneur - the best bang for your buck

Re: Vivente World Randonneur - the best bang for your buck

Postby iacl » Tue May 13, 2014 1:24 pm

RonK wrote:
iacl wrote:Starting get a bit more serious in thought about my conversion. Looking to maybe retro fit an eccentric bottom bracket along the lines of:
http://www.bushnelltandems.com/eccentric.html
http://www.rodbikes.com/articles/ebb-ar ... ticle.html

Some food for thought.

I have a Bushnell EBB on my VN Pioneer - it requires an oversize BB shell which would be impractical to retrofit.

No doubt that is why Noel has opted for the tensioner on the VWR. It would not make economic sense to manufacture an EBB specific frame for what is unlikely to be a volume seller.


Thanks Ron, I usually do have a bit of problem with the obvious stuff : )

What about this one?

http://www.trickstuff.de/en/products/ex ... r_KL.php#1
2012 VWR : )
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Re: Vivente World Randonneur - the best bang for your buck

Postby Andy » Tue May 13, 2014 2:41 pm

the_real_jimbob wrote:Considering the Gibb with Rohloff hub but the local seller said the models on order for test rides are the derailleur versions. My biggest concern are reports on the hub noise and shifting mechanism especially coming from Ultegra on a road bike. Since these issues are subjective it seems best to test ride it before buying a $3700 bike on spec. Anyone know of any options to test ride one of these hubs in Perth?


Just to throw a spanner in the works and a big assumption it is your size, I saw this below in the ebay touring thread on BNA. Looks an absolute bargain and negotiable on price.

From what I can tell it has sliding rear drop outs which can be used or changed to fit a Rohloff as well as provide tension adjustment. Might be worth some research. A unique ready to go tourer with quality accessories and the option to optimally fit a Rohloff at a later date.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/fremantle/bicycles/touring-bike-fully-equipped-/1045979082
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Re: Vivente World Randonneur - the best bang for your buck

Postby RonK » Tue May 13, 2014 4:59 pm

iacl wrote:
RonK wrote:
iacl wrote:Starting get a bit more serious in thought about my conversion. Looking to maybe retro fit an eccentric bottom bracket along the lines of:
http://www.bushnelltandems.com/eccentric.html
http://www.rodbikes.com/articles/ebb-ar ... ticle.html

Some food for thought.

I have a Bushnell EBB on my VN Pioneer - it requires an oversize BB shell which would be impractical to retrofit.

No doubt that is why Noel has opted for the tensioner on the VWR. It would not make economic sense to manufacture an EBB specific frame for what is unlikely to be a volume seller.


Thanks Ron, I usually do have a bit of problem with the obvious stuff : )

What about this one?

http://www.trickstuff.de/en/products/ex ... r_KL.php#1

Interesting - looks like it would work if it's not too tricky to set up. Obviously the range of adjustment is not going to be huge, but then a Rohloff can tolerate a bit of chain slack as long as it doesn't come off the sprockets.

If you order one you'll need to order the installation tool as well.

I can't see any great problem with the VWR Gibb setup, but you could discard the tensioner and retrofit one of these EBB's.
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Re: Vivente World Randonneur - the best bang for your buck

Postby chillimagnum » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:18 pm

Anyone using the trekking bar version? What I'm not sure is how this would change the bike fit and sizing based on a drop bar. Their site says:

"This sits your hands about 6cm forward of where they would have been on the earlier trekking bars. The new position corresponds to about where they would be if the same frame was set up as a drop-bar touring bike or a flat-bar hybrid."
http://www.viventebikes.com/main/page_t ... tions.html

Would that "new position" be the equivelant of tops or hoods?
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Re: Vivente World Randonneur - the best bang for your buck

Postby RonK » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:41 pm

chillimagnum wrote:Anyone using the trekking bar version? What I'm not sure is how this would change the bike fit and sizing based on a drop bar. Their site says:

"This sits your hands about 6cm forward of where they would have been on the earlier trekking bars. The new position corresponds to about where they would be if the same frame was set up as a drop-bar touring bike or a flat-bar hybrid."
http://www.viventebikes.com/main/page_t ... tions.html

Would that "new position" be the equivelant of tops or hoods?


Since a flat bar is also mentioned in the comparison I'd say its the tops.
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Re: Vivente World Randonneur - the best bang for your buck

Postby bosvit » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:53 pm

My mate has one with the trekking bars one size smaller than I would normally ride

It feels to me like the the main part of the bar would be like a flat bar and the very comfy bar extensions are like being on the hoods with extra hand positions
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Re: Vivente World Randonneur - the best bang for your buck

Postby VeloGiro » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:47 pm

Conversion of a 2012 VWR to a pseudo Gibb

I have been curious about a Rohloff Speedhub since I first heard of them some time ago…in more recent times I have been tracking the at times feisty debates about their various merits and flaws through BNA forums… and I must admit that these discussions were adding to my increasing curiosity about whether I would ever throw away my cassettes and derailleurs and join the, in the main, enthusiastic band of Rohloff devotees!

The thing is i have! And its completely due to BNA forums that this has happened ...

If your interested in how this came to be and how i went about the conversion...hit the link. http://worldrandonneurconversion.wordpress.com

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