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Re: Touring Clothing

Postby baabaa » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:42 pm

With merino...best wash them in warm water with a small amount of soap rather than detergent just to get the salts out of them. I think once a week is about right for me anyway, but if you have two t-shirts you could push that out to a three week cycle by not wearing the same one two days in a row. If you have merino knicks best use several pairs of undershorts and wash these daily and you can also get a week out of your knicks without them become nasty.
Do not for a second think that you need to add any type fabric softener with next to skin weight/ fine-ish merino. I will just rot in about 1/3 of the expected garment lifetime.
Oh and as an option I have been using cactus shorts on the bike for the later part of summer.
https://www.cactusoutdoor.co.nz/
I like ground effect gear but this stuff is six star quality, so well made and I will go some of the merino tshirts they make and guessing another pair of shorts and trousers (not for on the bike but as a option to jeans)

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Postby Aushiker » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:11 pm

baabaa wrote:Oh and as an option I have been using cactus shorts on the bike for the later part of summer.
https://www.cactusoutdoor.co.nz/


Which shorts have you gone with? I switched to a pair of Endura SingleTrack II shorts last year (I prefer shorts with a liner option) and have impressed with them so far and they match the reviews I had read before purchasing. That said haven't used them enough to really get a handle on their durability.
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Re: Touring Clothing

Postby baabaa » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:01 pm

The lightweight Supershorts in 6oz, still robust and can see many years of life. I am tall and skinny and went a medium, they float on me for width so always need a belt (went one of their belts as well..) but ideal for length.
I get tired of finding good shorts only to find you wear them out in one season and then cant get the same ones the next year. (Think of a brand that is a major town in Nepal ...)

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Postby Aushiker » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:30 pm

baabaa wrote:I get tired of finding good shorts only to find you wear them out in one season and then cant get the same ones the next year. (Think of a brand that is a major town in Nepal ...)


Not surprised ... haven't touched their gear in years for this very reason. Not yet convinced to go with the Cactus shorts given the price plus need to buy a liner as well and that my Endura shorts which are MTB specific are working out well so far, but still will be interested in how you go with them. Always good to have quality options.
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Re: Touring Clothing

Postby avolve » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:31 pm

Was wondering what liner liners (and shorts) people recommend...

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Postby RonK » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:25 pm

I've tried quite a few brands including Pearl Izumi and Ground Effect but currently I favour Zoic Ether. NZO Dobies are pretty good too if you can get 'em.
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Postby avolve » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:07 pm

RonK wrote:I've tried quite a few brands including Pearl Izumi and Ground Effect but currently I favour Zoic Ether. NZO Dobies are pretty good too if you can get 'em.


Where do you order your Zoic shorts from?

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Postby RonK » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:20 pm

avolve wrote:
RonK wrote:I've tried quite a few brands including Pearl Izumi and Ground Effect but currently I favour Zoic Ether. NZO Dobies are pretty good too if you can get 'em.


Where do you order your Zoic shorts from?

Got 'em on Amazon.
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Postby Trevtassie » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:56 am

Got good results out of Clubride from the USA, bloody expensive though, unless you can score them through Steep and Cheap as remainders. They make a nice long sleeve shirt good for touring, I harassed them into making it again this season, since my old one is getting a bit tired. If you sign up to Clubride and harass them a bit, you get a 10% discount coupon for your first purchase, helps with the pain. They do, for the USA, have "cheap" postage.
I get my shorts from S&C too, Fox Rangers, good, strong, easy to wash shorts that come with a liner, paid about US$35 a pair. They have changed the design a bit, latest ones don't have belt loops.

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Postby Aushiker » Mon May 08, 2017 10:00 am

Massdrop have Smartwool Merino 150 (summer weight according to Icebreaker) short sleeved base layers as a drop. The price has dropped to AU$65 plus shipping so makes them competitive against Icebreaker for example.

I find this weight good as both a base layer in the colder months and as a t-shirt or riding shirt in the warmer months.
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Re: Touring Clothing

Postby rifraf » Mon May 08, 2017 2:59 pm

Anyone know if washing merino in cold water encourages shrinkage :?:

Although my scales suggest otherwise, I've either gone up half an underwear size due to lard or I need to alter my clothes wash
methodology. :oops:

Either way I'm gutted some of my Macpac undershorts appear snugger than they were when I recently purchased them.
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Postby avolve » Mon May 08, 2017 3:52 pm

RonK wrote:I've tried quite a few brands including Pearl Izumi and Ground Effect but currently I favour Zoic Ether. NZO Dobies are pretty good too if you can get 'em.


I piked up a pair of Zoic Preston Shorts from Jenson USA (with some other bits).

Very happy with them after one beach ride on my Surly Pug Ops.

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Re: Touring Clothing

Postby baabaa » Mon May 08, 2017 6:35 pm

Anyone know if washing merino in cold water encourages shrinkage

Depends if it is pure wool or a blend. Raw wool is heated in water and heat dried during the processing journey into fabric. Can also then heated again to make the dye set. Most of the fibre shrinkage occurs at these stages so cold water for a garment should be fine. If it is a blend, I would say yes but depends other fibres went into the yarn and then the country/ factory in which it was processed. Guessing undershorts will be very fine wool. If you hold them up to the light can you see thru them? (look for equal warp and weave) Also, what sort of washing machine and the type of powder do you use?

Oh and smartwool stuff is good.

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Postby Aushiker » Mon May 08, 2017 7:00 pm

baabaa wrote:Oh and smartwool stuff is good.


Good to know. I have tried one or two other brands of merino clothing and have been less than impressed. Reluctant to step away from Icebreaker now.
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Re: Touring Clothing

Postby robbo mcs » Mon May 08, 2017 8:12 pm

I have some merino thermal tops I picked up from Aldi in their ski sales last year. They have been excellent, warm and comfortable, and have worn very well considering they were $30. Just mentioning this because I believe the ski gear sale is coming up shortly.

Unfortunately, like most of these aldi specials, there is no guarantee that this year the brand and quality will be the same as last year, so buyer beware. However, for budget stuff it is worth a look.

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Postby cancan64 » Tue May 09, 2017 10:26 am

I get all my Icebreaker from https://www.bivouac.co.nz/ ... They are only a couple of streets down from Icebreaker for me and always cheaper although they may not carry current lines
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Postby Mugglechops » Tue May 09, 2017 1:26 pm

brumby33 wrote:Ok Getting back to touring clothes......many of you especially Ron seem to be liking of the Ground Effect gear from NZ and I've known they've been around for some time, but due to the fact I'm quite largish, I found many cycling type clothes, even 3xl's seem to be very small cut or small in general......so I'm wondering what Ground Effect are like in the way of sizing, are they are generous fit? do they stretch....do the seams tend to be strong?

I've also been told by a Bike shop owner that larger people tend to do well with the Bibs as apposed to shorts due to the shorts slipping down. I'm sure you blokes arn't as big as me and I'm hoping to lose some of this size due to cycling but I struggle to get good cycling clothes my size. best i could do so far is some Bell Weathers knicks which are quite comfy.

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Have a look at the other Kiwi brand, Nzo. I have two pairs of there Dobies in 3xl. They fitted me with plenty of room at 126kgs and still don't look too big at 108kgs. Between both pairs I now have close to 15000kms and they still look like new.
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Re: Touring Clothing

Postby rifraf » Tue May 09, 2017 6:06 pm

baabaa wrote:
Anyone know if washing merino in cold water encourages shrinkage

Depends if it is pure wool or a blend. Raw wool is heated in water and heat dried during the processing journey into fabric. Can also then heated again to make the dye set. Most of the fibre shrinkage occurs at these stages so cold water for a garment should be fine. If it is a blend, I would say yes but depends other fibres went into the yarn and then the country/ factory in which it was processed. Guessing undershorts will be very fine wool. If you hold them up to the light can you see thru them? (look for equal warp and weave) Also, what sort of washing machine and the type of powder do you use?

Oh and smartwool stuff is good.


It seems I've found the culprit.
Tis me. :shock: :oops:
My digital scales have been telling porkies.
I moved them to a different position on the tiled floor and low and behold, an unexpected and not unsubstantial gain :oops:

I'm going to have to lift my exercise, which I've been aware of for some time.

Glad thats sorted.
I did some checking and they are not a blend, but 100% merino.
The machine is a front loader and detergent varies.
Currently in the laundry is some power of a pricy nature (hearsay) and two liquid varieties being Cold-Power and Dynamo.

Looking at the specs:
Fabric Weight (gm²) 150
Micron 17.5

https://www.macpac.com.au/merino-150-bo ... rance.html
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Re: Touring Clothing

Postby hartleymartin » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:42 pm

I tend to tour mostly in the cooler months. I have two red merino jerseys, but they are only short-sleeve. I should have gone for the long-sleeve type! That said, I do still wear them when touring. I also had a wool V-neck sweater to wear over it if I need extra warmth and I also have an old light shell jacket for when the wind is piercing. I also happen to have a carradice rain cape, though I wish it were a few inches wider and longer.

For the bottom half, I have typically worn MTB style cycling shorts, as I don't like the skin-tight knickers most cyclists wear. I have two of these and on tour, I generally alternate between the two shorts (and two jerseys) each day. The Merino never gets smelly as the lanolin in the fibres don't allow the BO bacteria to live for very long.
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Postby Cheesewheel » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:37 pm

Mountain designs have a range of corespun merino ... it is a sythetic thread coated in merino threads (if I recall rightly) ... I bought some but havent really been in anything cool enough to put to the test ... I don't think they have anything cycling specific if that is an issue
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Postby hartleymartin » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:31 pm

I have been reading the thread and I am interested in the Merino T-shirts and Polos that have become available in the past few years. If not for wear during riding, they would at least be good as travelling clothes to wear when it isn't appropriate to wear cycling gear once off the bicycle.
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