Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Aushiker » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:26 am

This was posted over at MTBR.

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Wingnut » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:13 pm

Seriously considering a pair of these...

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Aushiker » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:02 pm

Before pulling the trigger on a pair of Salsa Anything Cages I would like to take a look at the alternatives. I vaguely recall at least one alternative, possibly a UK brand but I cannot find anything. Anyone able to help with suggestions on alternatives to the Salsa cages?

EDIT: Found what I was looking for ... The Gorilla Cage

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Espresso_ » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:46 pm

Wingnut wrote:Seriously considering a pair of these...

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USD140 for two, including shipping to Australia.

They do look good, but the shipping makes them a pretty expensive proposition compared to Anything Cages.

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Wingnut » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:23 pm

They seem a bit more robust than the Salsa's and no bidon bolts req...

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby RonK » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:47 pm

That Everthing bag looks a better alternative for carrying a tent.

If you want to do a bulk order I'll take a grey one. :lol:
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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby RonK » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:50 pm

The Blackburn Outpost is another option.

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Espresso_ » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:53 pm

RonK wrote:The Blackburn Outpost is another option.


I'd consider this over the Salsa - it's a tad cheaper and 4kgs is enough. Using only two bosses it allows a high and low mount option for those of us that have triple boss forks.

Same issues with sourcing though - shipping costs from the U.S. are a killer.

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby pbekkerh » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:23 am

Has anyone tried these? They give you total freedom of placement, fork, downtube, seatpost etc. but I'm a bit sceptic about the 2015 model, with its plastic, but a newer model should be better than the old one, right? :D

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Baalzamon » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:53 am

I tried and ditched them. Damaged the paintwork on my bike grrr
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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby pbekkerh » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:04 am

Old or 2015 model, there seems to be quite a difference?
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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby m@ » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:15 pm

I used the old model on my steelie, same result (damaged paint). The problem is the bolts are too long and protrude through the body/nut and impact the frame - could be quite nasty on a CF frame or fork leg! I've considered breaking it out to put a bottle cage on the seat tube on my CX bike... but too afraid I't'd damage the frame! :o

Should be ok with a selection of shorter bolts and some patient trial-and-error. I'd also recommend a layer of inner tube between the plastic strap and frame to prevent scuffing.

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby RonK » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:21 pm

Salsa Anything cages and bags are available from smartbikeparts.com, and shipping charges are very reasonable too.

smartbikeparts.com offer a huge range of components and is well worth a visit.
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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Aushiker » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:27 pm

RonK wrote:Salsa Anything cages and bags are available from smartbikeparts.com, and shipping charges are very reasonable too.

smartbikeparts.com offer a huge range of components and is well worth a visit.


Thanks Ron. Handy to know as they offer a reasonable saving over JensonUSA for example.

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Aushiker » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:17 pm

Just came across this NZ product ... Triple Boss Holsters. NZ$120 for a pair.

The Triple Boss Holsters, simple yet effective. Attaches to your forks using triple water bottle bosses found on Surly, Salsa and various other bikes. Designed to hold a cylindrical object such as a sleeping mat, sleeping bag or tent fly (also works well for the milk run!). Easily wraps away when not in use.

Set comprises of two holsters
Plastic stiffener at attachment points
Stainless steel bolts and washers for mounting included in set
One horizontal strap and one vertical strap keeps load secure
Weighs 330g Including hardware


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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Espresso_ » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:37 pm

Aushiker wrote:Just came across this NZ product ... Triple Boss Holsters. NZ$120 for a pair.

The Triple Boss Holsters, simple yet effective. Attaches to your forks using triple water bottle bosses found on Surly, Salsa and various other bikes. Designed to hold a cylindrical object such as a sleeping mat, sleeping bag or tent fly (also works well for the milk run!). Easily wraps away when not in use.

Set comprises of two holsters
Plastic stiffener at attachment points
Stainless steel bolts and washers for mounting included in set
One horizontal strap and one vertical strap keeps load secure
Weighs 330g Including hardware



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Interesting option. I'm liking a local option, but I'm not sold on the idea of something that doesn't have a "bottom". The Salsa Anything Cage (inc HD), Blackburn Outpost Cage and Everything Bag all have something to stop the thing you're carrying falling through the bottom beside the tension of the strap. Maybe that's why they don't like a carriage weight specification?

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Aushiker » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:41 pm

Espresso_ wrote:Interesting option. I'm liking a local option, but I'm not sold on the idea of something that doesn't have a "bottom".


There is a vertical strap which I assume is meant to make up for a lack of bottom. Whether it works well or not you can test for us :)

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Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Espresso_ » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:58 pm

I'm going to try this Twofish Cage Adaptor, which can be fitted to a range of places on the bike - including to forks, I guess.

My purpose is to get "back" the water bottle mount that I will lose when I install my frame bag. I also want to retain use of the BBB Fueltank XL bottle mount which I quite like, and many on here have also had good experience with.

I'm also trying to keep heavy loads (like water) to the frame rather than fork to avoid the need to balance the loads on both sides if I want my steering to be remain neutral.

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Wingnut » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:33 pm

I will be surprised if that one mount will work with such a long cage with a full long bottle...maybe a second mount will help?

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Espresso_ » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:41 pm

Wingnut wrote:I will be surprised if that one mount will work with such a long cage with a full long bottle...maybe a second mount will help?


I know what you mean, though it does appear to be more robust that I imagined. I doubt the velcro would come off, though I could see it slipping down the downtube. I might just put a screw into the existing mount to see if that prevents slippage.

It also flexes more than a rigid screw mount because there's a large degree of rubber in the cage adaptor, so that means the bottle ejecting is a greater risk. However, I'm hoping the "locking" mouth component of the BBB XL cafe mount helps with that. Anyway - time will tell.

I don't see how a second mount would work with this bottle holder.

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Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Wingnut » Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:02 pm

I would think a double mount would be more supportive like this?

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Espresso_ » Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:34 pm

Wingnut wrote:I would think a double mount would be more supportive like this?


Oh I see what you mean now. That's a different product that doestn't fit on my BBB Fueltank XL cage (or any other cage) - instead, the cage is integrated. Does look like its less likely to slip or come off, but I think it might be more likely for the bottle to eject. That open cage doesn't seem as secure as the BBB.

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Wingnut » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:42 pm

Maybe a shaped block of rubber fit between the cage and frame with a Velcro strap?

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Aushiker » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:05 pm

Espresso_ wrote:
Wingnut wrote:I will be surprised if that one mount will work with such a long cage with a full long bottle...maybe a second mount will help?


I know what you mean, though it does appear to be more robust that I imagined. I doubt the velcro would come off, though I could see it slipping down the downtube. I might just put a screw into the existing mount to see if that prevents slippage.


I have had experience with TwoFish Lockblock light mounts ... as soon as the hook and loop tape got wet they worked loose. Found them hopeless and ditched them in the end. I would at least be monitoring them in a situation where they get wet.

A couple of other options that I am aware of are:

Zéfal Gizmo Universal Bottle Cage Clamps

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KLICKfix Bottle KLICK Fixing Set for Bottle Cages 1650

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Re: Water bottle holder on front fork of bicycle

Postby Espresso_ » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:08 pm

Wingnut wrote:Maybe a shaped block of rubber fit between the cage and frame with a Velcro strap?


That's already built into the design. It's about 4-5cm long and curved to sit flush against the tube.

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