Nitto Campee front racks 650b

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Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby Bendo » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:41 am

Has anyone ever used Nitto Campee front racks for 650B?

I'm particularly interested in how they attach. It looks like the 650b version of the Campee attaches to a top eyelet on your fork dropout, whereas the 700c has a curved strut to attach to the lower eyelet. They also look like they attach to canti bosses, but I was wondering whether there was enough adjustability to go high enough for centrepull bosses. b

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby baabaa » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:42 am

Best quote the model number. ( say check out bens cycles http://www.benscycle.com/c-62-racks-hol ... werSearch=[Manufacturer:Nitto]&PriceMin=[1.7900]&PriceMax=[299.9900]&PriceStart=[1.7900]&PriceEnd=[299.9900]&PageNum=[1]&SortBy=[Price%20ASC]&ItemsPerPage=[60]&View=[GridView] )
I have a very old one in the shed I can see if it is like the one you want. Ran it on a 26 inch with cantis but have a range of wheels sizes at the moment to test height (be quick, daughters 650 c bike for about a week more!!)

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby adktz » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:16 pm

I run the 700c version on my main bike. Does your fork have mid-fork or lowrider eyelets? I have seen people run struts, I'm guessing either from Nitto or maybe there are some bodge jobs using Tubus etc

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby baabaa » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:18 pm

My one works via a horizontal brace/ strut going mid fork into eyelets or C or P clips. Again built for a 26 inch wheel.
The base/ bottom fits into solid into the front eyelet with a small spacer. It has a large solid lower lug with just two M5 (?) holes for adjustment. The rack in the pic looks too small for the wheel size, not sure I would be keen on having that long a lower lug with adjustment holes brace to get it up and over the mud guard.

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby Bendo » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:52 pm

baabaa wrote:My one works via a horizontal brace/ strut going mid fork into eyelets or C or P clips. Again built for a 26 inch wheel.
The base/ bottom fits into solid into the front eyelet with a small spacer. It has a large solid lower lug with just two M5 (?) holes for adjustment. The rack in the pic looks too small for the wheel size, not sure I would be keen on having that long a lower lug with adjustment holes brace to get it up and over the mud guard.


That lower eyelet set up with the curved strut seems to be Nitto's default set-up for the 700c version of the Campee. Odd, I agree. b

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby Bendo » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:01 pm

adktz wrote:I run the 700c version on my main bike. Does your fork have mid-fork or lowrider eyelets? I have seen people run struts, I'm guessing either from Nitto or maybe there are some bodge jobs using Tubus etc

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Thanks for the pic. I have similar mid fork eyelets to yours, meant for my front rack but on thinking about it they might work for the struts. You say it's your 'main bike'. You're obviously happy with their performance then? And it looks like you use them as an ordinary front rack without the low-rider bits. b

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby grantw » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:36 pm

If it helps I've got a velo orange campeur on my Sam Hillborne, pretty similar to the Nitto except the pannier racks are permanently fixed. I had the option of attaching to either the mid fork brazeons or on the canti studs and went for the first option as it seemed less fiddling around.

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby Bendo » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:10 pm

Thanks for the pic Grant. The VO rack was the other one I was considering. Lovely and very neat camping set-up you've got. I especially love that you've fitted the rack carefully enough to attach to your mudguard. Most pics i see on the net people just have it floating above. Nice work! b

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby baabaa » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:20 pm

Some nice bikes with nittos here.
Re the low rider wings or whatever they be called, I found them to be a bit of a pest so took them off and never put them back on.
Fancy frame that Bendo, why not ask the frame builder to match up your fork specs with the best nitto to fit?

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby Bendo » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:51 pm

I asked them when i was there if i could buy a pair of the Honjos they had stacked to the rafters and they said no! The parts in the workshop are only for builds, not for retail. They get Nitto to make their racks I believe and considering I had to wait two years for the frame and forks, I think I'd be better off buying from Nitto direct. b

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby grantw » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:59 am

Thanks Bendo, it was a very fiddly job, and nerve wracking when you start cutting into the tangs of the rack to get it low enough...
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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby adktz » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:53 am

Bendo wrote:Thanks for the pic. I have similar mid fork eyelets to yours, meant for my front rack but on thinking about it they might work for the struts. You say it's your 'main bike'. You're obviously happy with their performance then? And it looks like you use them as an ordinary front rack without the low-rider bits. b

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Nice Toei!

Apologies I was in a bit of a rush and didn't explain myself. I use it on a bike with the cantilever mounts, that image is one I saw online using struts to the fork.

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The rack is great. I use it with a Wald basket zip-tied on top. The lowriders (660g inc bolts if you care) are left at home for general commuting, added back on for overnighters/touring/groceries as needed. I probably overload it a bit. I chose the Nitto over the VO version because I plan on travelling with my bike and it would pack a little more flat.

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby Bendo » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:55 pm

Thanks for that great pic @adktz. It really shows me the height of the struts and confirms that I'll b able to use the fork braze-ons on the Toei to support it. b

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby Bendo » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:56 pm

grantw wrote:Thanks Bendo, it was a very fiddly job, and nerve wracking when you start cutting into the tangs of the rack to get it low enough...

A bit like installing Honjos! As my woodwork teacher used to say, "measure 7 times, cut once." :) b

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby Bendo » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:12 pm

I've gone ahead and bought a pair from a shop in Tokyo via amazon. I'll report back with pics when they arrive. B

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby Bendo » Mon May 08, 2017 10:48 am

The racks arrived a while ago not problems, but it took me a while to get around to installing them. I had to get a longer connecting rod made that could reach from the rack to the fork mount. The usual canti mount rod was too short and has a flat plate brazed at 90 deg. to the rod. Very happy with the rest of the fit. Had to drill a new hole in my mudguard but that's OK. Even with only a single mount-point option on the bottom (fork eyelet) tab, the height was perfect. The leather additions to the low-rider racks are so that I can use carabiners instead of leather straps, which I find stretch and break quite quickly. The leather prevents it being metal-on-metal contact where the carabiners hang. b :) [url][url=https://flic.kr/p/UwRhjq]Image[/url]3-20170508_102318-001 by 弁慶, on Flickr[/url]

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby grantw » Tue May 09, 2017 7:48 am

Nice job, looks great!
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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby avolve » Tue May 09, 2017 3:38 pm

grantw wrote:If it helps I've got a velo orange campeur on my Sam Hillborne, pretty similar to the Nitto except the pannier racks are permanently fixed. I had the option of attaching to either the mid fork brazeons or on the canti studs and went for the first option as it seemed less fiddling around.

ImageRivendell Sam Hillborne with new mudguards from Velo Orange by Grant White, on Flickr


I have passed you on this bike a couple times, including pretty close to where this photo was taken...

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby grantw » Wed May 10, 2017 2:21 pm

avolve wrote:
I have passed you on this bike a couple times, including pretty close to where this photo was taken...


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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby baabaa » Wed May 10, 2017 2:39 pm

Hey Grant, which breed of crosstop levers are you running on the Sam?
And then, happy with the way they work? Look to flair out and down a bit.
Need a robust pair for a uni ss bike I am building for the daughter, she has small hands so the cane creek caliper levers I have will be a big reach and as it will be a canberra bike (ie, it is flat) I can see her riding on the bar tops for most of her rides.

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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby grantw » Thu May 11, 2017 10:32 am

They are tektro RL721's and they work ok, but I don't tend to use them very much. They came on the bike and to remove them I'd have to re-cable the brakes and replace the cork which is too much bother. I have no trouble operating them but someone with small hands might - it's a fairly wide gap to reach, but the travel is pretty small.
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Re: Nitto Campee front racks 650b

Postby baabaa » Thu May 11, 2017 8:47 pm

Thanks for that. I have salsa halter top levers on one bike and must say they work well and feel good. Would be ideal for her in terms of size and the amount of lever adjustment but I ain’t gonna give them up and doubt I can find another set anywhere without paying heaps of $$

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