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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:01 am
by stryker84
from what i've been told, they're doing so cos they're be putting out the OCR-C range, which is performance oriented i.e., carbon frame, higher end groupsets, etc,
probably gonna leave the current range down specced for the more recreational roadie... or people who want a road bike but at less cost.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:36 am
by commi
stryker84 wrote:from what i've been told, they're doing so cos they're be putting out the OCR-C range, which is performance oriented i.e., carbon frame, higher end groupsets, etc,
probably gonna leave the current range down specced for the more recreational roadie... or people who want a road bike but at less cost.
But they already have a OCR C range. I talked about this at my LBS and they were at a loss as to why the 08 OCRs seem down-specced
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:13 am
by Bnej
2200 didn't have STI shifters last year. Maybe 2200 is the new Sora and there's three road group sets under 105 now?
And I already have last years OCR C3 which was Tiagra...
I think I get it - they're putting a full sequence product line which goes directly from the OCR 1 to the C3, like this:
OCR 3 - 2 - 1 - C3 - C2 - C1 - C0
2200 - Sora - Tiagra - 105 - Ultrega - Ultrega/Dura ace - Dura ace
So now you don't get to choose between Tiagra/CF Frame or 105/Alloy frame for similar price - you want 105 you go the next frame up.
Actually it's even more complicated. They have the OCR alliance 1 & 0 where the OCR 1 used to be.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:25 pm
by Mulger bill
Bloody hell, glad I got my roadie this year
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:13 pm
by McPete
Ahem. The following is a pro-steel frame, olde bike(e) rant. If you are of a sensitive, carbon fiber disposition, you may find this slightly odd. Enjoy!
<rant>
Most of you have fairly recent bikes, yes? I have a late 70s Apollo III(SunTour Honour groupset, 12 speed). There are exactly three things I don't like, and they're minor.
1) Friction shifters. They work, but it can make hills a bit of a rush job.
2) A bit of rust, although I'm thinking of stripping the bike, rubbing the paint back, applying a bit of rust converter(Steel. Good stuff.), and then giving it a nice lick of red paint.
3) It's 5 kilos heavier than my dad's serveral years old OCR3(10Kg) and 6-7Kg heavier than his mate Steve's 2006 OCR2(8/9 something Kg?).
(I managed to get the Dia Compes going alright, it now stops fairly well!)
But I can match speed with the traffic in school zones, I can get up most hills without completely killing myself, I don't really have to worry about having it nicked. I can probably fit racks and panniers and go touring. It's got big, fat 27x1.25 inch tyres that have NEVER had a puncture, despite dirt and glass and gravel
As much as I'd love(Consumerisim is a wonderful force, no?) a lightweight machine, as much as I'd love something a bit easier to pull up hills... if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
</rant>
Peter
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:06 am
by europa
McPete wrote:.. if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Bbbbbut it IS broke - it's got 11 surplus gears
Richard
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:07 am
by Kalgrm
McPete wrote:(Consumerisim is a wonderful force, no?)
And if
you are broke, you
can't fix it ......
Cheers,
Graeme
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:19 am
by Bnej
And when there's bikes made of unobtainium and I'm still poodling on my old carbon fibre with deraileur gears, then I can rant about how CF was always better and there's no benefit in changing to a 500 gram bike....
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:46 pm
by McPete
A 500 gram bike? You'd need downforce to keep in on the road above 40
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:18 pm
by SEN1116
'08 Boulder (bright red) sighted on LBS shop floor on the w/e.
Mark