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how about these shoes?

Postby stryker84 » Sat May 26, 2007 5:32 am

are these shoes a good shoe to start of with?

well, not even have to be good, but adequate for someone who's never worn clipless before? and for about $100 less than any basic new shoe on the market, it looks sorely tempting...

answers before monday would be appreciated, torpedo7 updates specials on monday, so even IF you guys are trying to be nice and save me $80... :P
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Postby Mulger bill » Sat May 26, 2007 6:29 am

Are you sure you want roadie shoes Stryker? I believe they are tough to walk in :? Can a core roadie give further advice??

They do look sweet though, if I were in the market for a road shoe, I'd have my order in already.

Hope this helps.

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EDIT to add...
What pedals are you talking?
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Postby sogood » Sat May 26, 2007 7:42 am

Fit is critical in shoes, and unless it fits you well, even the most expensive pair can give you a sore spot. So unless you've tried them out in person for model and size, buying shoes by mail-order is very risky.
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Postby europa » Sat May 26, 2007 9:36 am

The problem you'll have with these shoes is that you won't be able to walk in them (well, not easily) because the cleat will be exposed. IMHO, you are better off buying an mtb shoe (using SPD cleats) with the cleat recessed into the sole - these allow you to walk normally - I even drive in mine and happily spend two hours at the soccer in the middle of a ride wearing them.

The caveat is that if you are pulling up hard on the pedals, some people have reported accidental uncleating. It hasn't happened to me and mine are set fairly loose, so I'm guessing it's related to more aggressive riding than I'm used to.

As sogood says, fit is very important with cycling shoes, and like all sporting shoes, the shape varies between manufacturers, so get fitted before buying.

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Postby LuckyPierre » Sat May 26, 2007 10:10 am

I think that the others have pretty much said it, but - if you ride an mtb, road shoes will annoy you. If you want road shoes, these are a damn good deal. I have their 'big brother' the SR-202 and they're great. I strongly agree with the others' comments about needing to try the actual shoes on, because fit varies so much with brand and model. If you can get to a store and check your size, then go for it. If you can't and are willing to take a risk, use Shimano or Specialized road shoes as a guide and err on the large side rather than too small.
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Postby stryker84 » Sat May 26, 2007 11:52 am

okay, quickly (just back from a nice ride, ascot vale - mordialloc and back, and now gotta drive out again, details later)

don't have pedals yet, but probably looking to fit some soon. in the interim wouldn't mind having the hard sole on the shoes anyway, and the less weight. currently using some nike ACG trainers, rather heavy and flexy.

don't mind that they're road shoes, will only be using them for longish distance rides. for dashing to uni/city/elsewhere it's short distances, i'll probably ride in casual clothes/shoes, so it wouldn't matter.

still think theyre a good deal? i'm abot to head off to a bike shop actually, so i'll see about sizing my feet for shoes, lovely timing! cheers!

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Postby mikesbytes » Sat May 26, 2007 12:11 pm

Those shoes are really good value for money.

As per Sogood, fit is really important, so you could take the risk and if they don't fit sell them on ebay.

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Postby stryker84 » Sat May 26, 2007 3:06 pm

actually, i could just return them, or exchange them i f i missize initially, no?

jeepers, my budget for this month looks like going to be completely blown... :P
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Postby mikesbytes » Sat May 26, 2007 6:05 pm

An A grade rider I know (sideshowbob) brought a pair of those brand shoes off T7 and is happy with them.

$79 with carbon soles and 3 straps, those shoes are almost as good as the ones I got which cost $200 on super special

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Postby Marv » Sat May 26, 2007 6:08 pm

I bought a pair of Exustar E-SR950 a few months back now for $100.
I have a wide foot and they fitted better than any other shoe there.
They have been a great shoe so far.
I have forgotten they were so cheap so the performance has been flawless.
I am tempted to buy another pair to stow in the cupboard.
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Postby stryker84 » Sun May 27, 2007 12:03 pm

the thing is, i don't race. a bit of fitness riding on my flatbar roadie (my only bike), and then the group rides with friends up and down beach road. though perhaps i'd like to try around the bay, and other longer rides next year, maybe.

having said that, i don't think i'd walk any distance in any cycling shoes, road OR mtb, since our rides usually consist just a 20-25km ride, breakfast/lunch/coffee at a cafe somewhere, then back again.i was actually planning to get a pair of MTB shoes, but these are even cheaper, better, and since i don't plan on walking/commuting in them anyway... still worth it?

and commuting, that's the 2nd question.
i'll still want to wear normal shoes (commutes to uni/city/etc are only 15-20 mins, the time it'd take to change shoes isn't really worth it :P), would dual use pedals like the M324s be a good idea?
i'm going on the assumption that roadie pedals (and platformless mtb pedals) aren't good for normal trainers at all, but if i'm only going thses short distances, can i get away with it?
don't worry bout the bling factor, i can ride with roadie shoes and M324s, who cares what the racers think (we passed a group of them on Beach Rd, us mainly on MTBs, flatbars, and hybrids, we even had a milk crate bolted on the back of someone's rack - you shoulda heard their passing comments! :lol:)

anyway, summary:
1. not really racing (or even pushing hard). but not gonna be walking in mtb shoes either. should i still get these for weekend rides?
2. if i do get the carbon road shoes, pedal/cleat combos? what should i look at?
(a) dual use like M324 + SPD cleats on new shoes + normal shoes for commutes
(b) road pedal e.g., look/SPD-SL on new shoes + normal shoes for commute (does this combo work?)
(c) clipless two-sided mtb pedal [it's much cheaper!] + SPD/otherMTB on new shoes + normal shoes for commute (does this combo work?)

hurry, one day left on torpedo7! cheers!
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Postby Mulger bill » Sun May 27, 2007 12:12 pm

Based on the summary Stryker, get them and the 324 pedals, it sounds like the best solution for you. You do not want to mix street shoes with XC type clipless pedals for anything more than a milkbar run. Fit is your only possible downside here.

Good Luck mate.

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Postby Mulger bill » Sun May 27, 2007 12:17 pm

stryker84 wrote:we passed a group of them on Beach Rd, us mainly on MTBs, flatbars, and hybrids, we even had a milk crate bolted on the back of someone's rack - you shoulda heard their passing comments! :lol:


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Postby commi » Mon May 28, 2007 1:23 am

hey I ride beach rd every weekend on my blade sport. we should ride together, that would look quite funny. :lol:

how about these?
http://www.freedommachine.com.au/item.a ... =0&ID=1034

mtb style, quite rigid and can still walk in them.

I have the specialised taho which are casual style and comfy to walk around in but too flexible for long long rides.

In hindsight I should have got the mtb ones instead of the tahos, but anyway.
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Postby stevos » Mon May 28, 2007 9:38 pm

ive got the wellgo pedal and road shoe combo that is on torpedo 7 for $136. I have been for about 3 100km rides and about three 50km rides in them and havent had any trouble with them, there great :lol: id recomend them to anyone
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Postby sogood » Tue May 29, 2007 1:35 pm

stryker84 wrote:anyway, summary:
1. not really racing (or even pushing hard). but not gonna be walking in mtb shoes either. should i still get these for weekend rides?
2. if i do get the carbon road shoes, pedal/cleat combos? what should i look at?
(a) dual use like M324 + SPD cleats on new shoes + normal shoes for commutes
(b) road pedal e.g., look/SPD-SL on new shoes + normal shoes for commute (does this combo work?)
(c) clipless two-sided mtb pedal [it's much cheaper!] + SPD/otherMTB on new shoes + normal shoes for commute (does this combo work?)

hurry, one day left on torpedo7! cheers!

Per another thread, the other serious consideration is to go Crank Brothers pedals. With the single cleat system, you can use both MTB and road shoes without any problems ie. 2 or 3 bolt system and can be walked on safely with road shoes. They also don't have any accidental pull out concerns as seen by some SPD users. Further, the quality of SPD pedals seemed to be going down hill in recent years. I have used two sets and one set's bearing gave out early. The other one has this annoying creak.
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Postby bigbuzz73 » Tue May 29, 2007 3:09 pm

how about these?
http://www.freedommachine.com.au/item.a ... =0&ID=1034

Hi guys,
These are the shoes I currently own. Had them for about 8 months. Absolutely fantastic: as comfortable as a pair of runners.
I'm in the process of buying carbon-soled road shoes and (maybe ) Speedplay pedals as I only use my road bike when going for a ride and rarely get off and walk. For commuting and general user-friendliness the MTB shoes are great, as Europa suggested.
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Postby Gishalo » Thu May 31, 2007 4:19 pm

I bought some. Am really happy with them. Its a good sight to keep your eye on, they have some pretty good specials.
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