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Shimano pedals - 505s v 540s

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:39 pm
by Keithb
I'm just about to buy my first set of cleats and from what I've read it may be worth paying the extra to get the 540s. The bikes I am looking at comes with the 505s.
Does anyone have any thoughts please :?:

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:21 am
by sogood
Per multiple past threads on MTB pedal/cleats, the advice is to look into Crank Brothers' offering. I had a M540 and the bearing gave out within a few hundred km of general road riding. Never SPDs again.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:03 am
by mikesbytes
The older spd pedals had good durability, but the newer ones don't seem to have the same quality

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:05 am
by sogood
If I went with XTR series of SPD pedals in the first place, maybe my view today would have been different. Of course, YMMV. Should have that 4 letters at the end of every comment on equipment. :roll:

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:23 am
by Kalgrm
Nothing to add except a second vote for Crank Brothers pedals. I've got Eggbeater SL and Candy SL pedals (mountain bike and recumbent resectively) and would never go back to the Shimano SPD pedal system.

Cheers,
Graeme

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:34 am
by mikesbytes
doesn't time also make a MTB pedal ?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:37 am
by sogood
mikesbytes wrote:doesn't time also make a MTB pedal ?

AFAIK, that's just a SPD compatible version. Probably with some kind of licensing deal.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:46 am
by Kalgrm
mikesbytes wrote:doesn't time also make a MTB pedal ?


Yep, Google "Time Attack" pedals for details.

Just about all MTB pedals are compatible with SPD, meaning the cleats bolt into the holes on the SPD system shoes regardless of the manufacturer.

Cheers,
Graeme

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:56 pm
by Halfanewb
One thing i have noticed in the comparison between the different models spd-sl's from shimano - the ultegra level pedal (purchased fleabay 139$) seems to better at being in the right position for the foot or more ready to clip (if that makes any sense) , it seemed that the 540 i got with the bike were always a quarter of a turn out of balance and then meant that frequently it was a task to get the foot clipped in the first go.

The ultegra model seems to balance at just the right angle so that as the pedal goes round the foot finds the cleat more instinctively. i'm guessing at the model pd-6700's i think they are, nice looking cleat too matches the other jewelery and worth the few extra bucks imo :)

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:31 pm
by sogood
Imanewbie wrote:One thing i have noticed in the comparison between the different models spd-sl's from shimano - the ultegra level pedal (purchased fleabay 139$) seems to better at being in the right position for the foot or more ready to clip (if that makes any sense) , it seemed that the 540 i got with the bike were always a quarter of a turn out of balance and then meant that frequently it was a task to get the foot clipped in the first go.

Just to clarify, SPD and SPD-SL are different. SPD is for 2 bolts MTB cleat/shoes while SPD-SL is 3 bolts road platform. SPD-SL is one sided while SPD typically is two sided entry.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:48 am
by Halfanewb
sogood wrote:Just to clarify, SPD and SPD-SL are different. SPD is for 2 bolts MTB cleat/shoes while SPD-SL is 3 bolts road platform. SPD-SL is one sided while SPD typically is two sided entry.


Hows your feelings on buying the "better quality" model sogood? :) , have you had similar experiences when looking for the differences that justify buying something a tad pricier? :)

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:40 pm
by sogood
Imanewbie wrote:Hows your feelings on buying the "better quality" model sogood? :) , have you had similar experiences when looking for the differences that justify buying something a tad pricier? :)

Well, one can only hope. With some things, the "better quality" can be noticed while others you can't. It's a question of diminishing returns and the placement of that inflection point can be subjective.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:12 pm
by Parrott
Imanewbie wrote:One thing i have noticed in the comparison between the different models spd-sl's from shimano - the ultegra level pedal (purchased fleabay 139$) seems to better at being in the right position for the foot or more ready to clip (if that makes any sense) , it seemed that the 540 i got with the bike were always a quarter of a turn out of balance and then meant that frequently it was a task to get the foot clipped in the first go.

The ultegra model seems to balance at just the right angle so that as the pedal goes round the foot finds the cleat more instinctively. i'm guessing at the model pd-6700's i think they are, nice looking cleat too matches the other jewelery and worth the few extra bucks imo :)



Yeah I often have trouble getting my shoes into the 540's for the reasons you outline. Maybe ultegra's are the go. Rest of the bike is ultegra any way.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:48 pm
by Parrott

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:53 pm
by sogood
I am getting confused. Are you guys talking SPD or SPD-SL?!? :shock:

Did the thread get hijacked somewhere? Terrorist about? :wink:

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:45 am
by Halfanewb
LoL no bro :) just chatting about bang for bike buck , what you said about diminishing returns is true and the first couple of steps in the process still reflect good value for money/performance :)