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Postby NhiTrac » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:54 pm

Hi all,

So this evening I was forced to take a spoon of cement on the M5 with 25km to go, when my cable snapped forcing the rear derailleur into the lowest cog :shock:

Anyway I made it home OK though with a higher average heart rate :lol:

I'm going to replace all the inner cables as well as the outer sleeve as they haven't been replaced for about 7,000km+. Are there any specific brands that you guys swear by?

I remember reading somewhere about sealed cables etc but cant recall the brand. Are these worth the extra $$$ or should I just pop over at the LBS and grab some OEM ones?

Lastly, on average (taking into consideration time and distance), when should cables be replaced?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby Tornado » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:09 pm

Can't help you with cables, but in future if you have a screw driver or anything that could be used as one you can lock your derailleur out in a better gear. Adjust the limit to whichever gear you prefer.
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby NhiTrac » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:18 pm

Tornado wrote:Can't help you with cables, but in future if you have a screw driver or anything that could be used as one you can lock your derailleur out in a better gear. Adjust the limit to whichever gear you prefer.


Thanks mate. I did not know this, will google it up.

Have also added a multi-tool to my shopping list.

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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby }SkOrPn--7 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:28 pm

Commonly known as the "B screw" is what Tornado is referring too on your derailleur it force the jockey wheel to climb the cluster and just make small adjustments so the chain will stay on the cassette you choose.
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Postby Aushiker » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:57 pm

NhiTrac wrote:I remember reading somewhere about sealed cables etc but cant recall the brand. Are these worth the extra $$$ or should I just pop over at the LBS and grab some OEM ones?


I have recently fitted a set of Gore Ride On cables on my Surly Long Haul Trucker. Probably overkill for a touring bike but I am quite impressed with these cables. Nice and smooth operation.

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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:57 pm

I use Jagwire all round with little drama but I'm thinking of a Gore kit for the commuter next time around. Typically, I go yearly, just after winter.
It's pretty easy to check your cables every time you do the chain, an ounce of prevention etc.
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby Cardy George » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:49 am

Once upon a time there were Teflon coated cables, are they still available?
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby Strawburger » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:34 am

Don't get cheap ones, they won't last the 7000kms you put in on the last set that's for sure!

I use the DuraAce in my road bike, i definitely can feel the difference to something that costs $5-$10. Haven't really experimented with others on the road bike but the other bikes usually get the cheaper stockpiled ones.
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby }SkOrPn--7 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:34 am

Cardy George wrote:Once upon a time there were Teflon coated cables, are they still available?


Yes

I no longer worry about PTFE coated cables I buy a can CRC Dry Glide this allows you to coat the cables and spray the outer cables for a super slick operation. I also use this to coat parts that need lubricating but you want it to be dry so mud and road crud doesn't stick. Because it bonds to the material water doesn't effect it but just be careful how you apply it because it bonds so well if there is over spray you end up with some of your parts looking a shade of white so don't get near your paint work. It won't hurt your paint work but it bonds to it and hard to get off.

Using Dry Glide you never have to worry about sticky cables but it cost 20 clams a can and last for ever.

http://www.crcind.com.au/dry-glide-with-ptfe

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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby Ozkaban » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:52 am

I put gore low friction ones on my commuter when I built it. Not overly cheap (about $30 each for brakes and gears) but you can notice the difference. Happy to have spent the money.

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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby __PG__ » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:23 am

I'm getting Yokozuna cables for my next bike. Apparently they are the bees knees for SRAM.

SRAM now ship Red with Gore cables as standard BTW>
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby NhiTrac » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:29 am

__PG__ wrote:I'm getting Yokozuna cables for my next bike. Apparently they are the bees knees for SRAM.


You know, I was just about to ask you guys on your thoughts of these.

I have them in my wiggle basket right now at $59. Hopefully they'll fit into my top tube's internal routing.
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby __PG__ » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:21 pm

Yes, they do warn that the cable housings are rather stiff. Here is what competitive cycles said about them
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby Cardy George » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:24 pm

Right on cue!

DaveOZ Cables topic

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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby NhiTrac » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:38 pm

That's sold it. Read a few other reviews and they all sound promising so have placed my order with some cutters :mrgreen:

Will update again once I've tested them out :mrgreen:
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby Dave R32 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:00 pm

Yokozuna are fantastic.

The brake outers have the same inner lining as the gear cables which makes for amazingly smooth feel. The only issue I found was the super stiff outers make routing these along your handlebars a bit more difficult than with normal cables.

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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby SpinninWheels » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:06 pm

NhiTrac wrote:
So this evening I was forced to take a spoon of cement on the M5 with 25km to go, when my cable snapped forcing the rear derailleur into the lowest cog :shock:



I hope you kept it in the big ring!
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby jacks1071 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:32 pm

NhiTrac wrote:Hi all,

Lastly, on average (taking into consideration time and distance), when should cables be replaced?



Varies depending on usage and conditions. I change mine twice per year and I've never broken a cable, had pleanty of outer housings getting ready to fail after 6 months of usage. I always use the Dura-Ace outer which I buy in a 20 metre roll and for the inner anything reasonable quality.
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby steve-waters » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:00 pm

My outer will last forever but change my inners once or twice a year - same as Jacks near had one break.
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby ldrcycles » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:43 pm

I'm about to build a bike with internal cable routing and i've seen a few links saying the Yokozuna cables may or may not fit, does anyone have any first hand experience?
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Re: Cables cables cables!

Postby NhiTrac » Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:20 pm

ldrcycles wrote:I'm about to build a bike with internal cable routing and i've seen a few links saying the Yokozuna cables may or may not fit, does anyone have any first hand experience?


Fitted Yokozunas to mine (internal rear brake) and they fit no problems.

Ps they absolutely transformed the shifting and braking on my bike. Am loving them!
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