Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
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Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby WoolleyMammoth » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:04 pm
I've been doing a lots of kms recently in preparation for Around The Bay, and my wheels have just about had it (thousands of kms and 7 years of faithful service). Sunday will be their last hurrah. I've been looking around for a new wheelset for a while, but am aware that at 95kg a fancy 18-spoke straight pull arrangement might lead to me replacing a fair few spokes in the future, and some long walks home.
I've been looking at a few sets (Shimano RS80, Mavic Ksyrium or Open Pro), would love something aero (hence the RS80s) but not sure if this is unrealistic? Through the summer will probably average only 150km a week on them (commute on another bike), living in Canberra so it's 'undulating' (read 'hilly') so don't want anything that's going to flex.
So, my question is: is buying a set with a larger number of spokes something or a more traditional arrangement something I need to worry about at 95kg?
If it is, are there any wheelsets anyone can recommend? Shimano, less than $1000.
Any thoughts or comments appreciated.
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby jamesn184 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:31 am
I got a pair of open pros from them laced with ultegra hubs and have served me well when I was 120kg
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby r2160 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:28 am
A bit heavy but tough
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby rtnicho » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:38 am
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby limetang » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:07 am
Up to you but you dont need to go custom or 32h imho
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby jacks1071 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:34 pm
http://www.pro-liteoz.com/store/index.p ... t&catId=18" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We (Pro-Lite) have got the Como, Merano and Bracciano - all are fine for your weight. The most heavy duty set are the Como, followed by Merano and then Bracciano. You could buy a set of each and still have change from your budget
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby WoolleyMammoth » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:05 pm
The Velocity Deep Vs and the Bracciano's definitely warrant a further look.
An interesting mix of views that "nah, commercial wheels will take a big load" vs "you'll need something bombproof". They'll be going on a 2010 Litespeed C3, if that makes any difference to opinions? (i say it because i once rode a cheap bike where the forks flexed when i did my best Cavendish impression)
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby Nobody » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:41 pm
Lower spoke count factory wheels can take a big load, but for how many thousands on kilometres with a heavy rider? If you break a C24 spoke, can you get a replacement easily?
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby wqlava1 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:01 pm
Why I go into detail about the spoke tension is that the best wheels I have had that last the longest are the ones that start off true and with high-ish tension. I had a pair of DT Swiss R520 rims on Surly flip flop hubs on my fixie that my 110kg son now rides around the inner city. The wheel build was a custom one for a guy who had high standards and the wheels are still dead true after over 10000km of around town and bike paths, and they are up around 130kg tension by my measure. (All that gives me grief with those are the 7901 angular contact bearings that Surly used. Does anyone have good instructions for reinstalling new ones?) Those rims (and the RR465) from DT Swiss are under $60 like the Open Pros or CXP33s and rated to 110kg by DT Swiss. I've not seen rider weight ratings from Mavic and Velocity, but they'd be up there, probably a bit higher for the Deep Vees.
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby usernameforme » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:33 pm
freight forwarder, although at that rate it might well be cheaper/more convenient to buy elsewhere...wqlava1 wrote:BWW's website says they don't freight to Australia
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby macca33 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:28 am
When I bought the bike (used) it had a set of Shimano WH-R550 fitted, but I just couldn't get over the 16f / 20r spoke count - always had me concerned as I am a statuesque sort of a bloke! Hopefully these Comos live up to expectations!
BTW - the bike, with cage / pump / saddle bag weighed in at 9.9kg with the Shimano rims on and is now at 10.2kg with the Comos - so not too bad.
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby jasonc » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:13 am
good choice - my como's cop a pounding and still going strong after over 6000kmsmacca33 wrote:Following some of the feedback off this forum, I purchased a set of Pro-lite Comos. I had my LBS fit a new cassette and I fitted the wheels last night - cannot wait to get out for a pedal today!
When I bought the bike (used) it had a set of Shimano WH-R550 fitted, but I just couldn't get over the 16f / 20r spoke count - always had me concerned as I am a statuesque sort of a bloke! Hopefully these Comos live up to expectations!
BTW - the bike, with cage / pump / saddle bag weighed in at 9.9kg with the Shimano rims on and is now at 10.2kg with the Comos - so not too bad.
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby macca33 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:51 pm
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby yarravalleyplodder » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:56 pm
Thisozdavo wrote:Custom built from TWE?
I am 110kg and got greg to make me a pair and they are fanbloodytastic and they cost me less that your stated budget. Happy to recommend them to anyone
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby antipodean » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:38 pm
You actually paid someone to do that?macca33 wrote: I had my LBS fit a new cassette
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Re: Wheels for the heavy(ish) rider
Postby brawlo » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:37 pm
I actually had a conversation along these lines on the bunchy this morning. So many of the lighter wheelsets these days incorporate lightweight hubs and reduced spoke count with heavier rims. So many people fail to see that a wheelset with more spokes and a lighter rim would actually "feel" lighter on the spinup and in climbing. Market hype......yessiree.usernameforme wrote:Custom wheels are always the way to go if you're not the standard 67% (or whatever that figure is) and are still the way to go if you are in it . A set of Custom wheels may look heavier, but the rims are usually much lighter than factory options. A good example of this is the Ultegra Open-Pro combos, It has a 435g rim but it comes out to around 2kg Most factory wheels of that weight will have a 500-600g rim. I suspect that the rim of the Como's will be around 550g. Pro-lite need to use a stiffer/heavier rim to make up for the low spoke count. I personally don't like this trend as when/if you break a spoke the wheels will be unrideable because you have such a low count, and you are more likely to break one (or many) because each spoke does more work. I'd reserve low spoke counts to racing/weekend wheels personally, don't drink the kool-aid.
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