Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby dale79 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:41 pm

Sharkey wrote:
dale79 wrote:taking my full carbon DI2 bike to the LBS today to get a firmware update.. im almost as excited about the new features as what i was when i first got the bike..


Hey Dale

I am thinking of getting a firmware upgrade for mine too. Just one question though. If you have multi-shift, how do you check for battery charge level as holding down the button for half a second would now be programmed to change multiple gears?

I really like the DI2 on my bike but understand it's not for everyone, so as to whether it's worth the money or not is up to each individual.

Ralphy - let us know what you think when you have had a decent ride.



all done,

just hold the button for the front shifter or the rear shifter when it is at the end of its limits and it lights up as normal..
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby SmellyTofu » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:45 pm

Carburettor > Electronic Fuel Injection
Abacus > Casio Calculator
Sun dial > Clock
Single speed > Deraileur

Enough said.
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby sogood » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:31 pm

SmellyTofu wrote:Carburettor > Electronic Fuel Injection
Abacus > Casio Calculator
Sun dial > Clock
Single speed > Deraileur

Enough said.


==> Environmental pollution ==> Responsible/sustainable green living

'nuff said.
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby danny the boy » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:07 pm

Mods just turf this thread out as well, the OP has got advice and is a now another happy owner of di2. No need to keep feeding the trolls.
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby ozzymac » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:11 pm

sogood wrote:
SmellyTofu wrote:Carburettor > Electronic Fuel Injection
Abacus > Casio Calculator
Sun dial > Clock
Single speed > Deraileur

Enough said.


==> Environmental pollution ==> Responsible/sustainable green living

'nuff said.

Maybe a bit of brain pollution going on here to.....

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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby Mulger bill » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:33 pm

danny the boy wrote:No need to keep feeding the trolls.


On both sides :roll:

Methinks we've found another topic to add to the banned "religion" rules :(
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby sogood » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:40 pm

Mulger bill wrote:Methinks we've found another topic to add to the banned "religion" rules :(

Took you a while.

Once there were,
Single speed vs Multi-speed
Campag vs Shimano
Steel vs Alloy
Steel vs CF
Alloy vs CF
Ti vs all

Now we have,
Mechanical derailleur vs Electronic derailleur
Campag EPS vs Shimano Di2

What's new? Without these, there wouldn't be a cycling forum!!!
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby Nobody » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:33 pm

sogood wrote:
Once there were,
Single speed vs Multi-speed - Multi-speed, but "this goes up to 11" is getting ridiculous.
Campag vs Shimano - Don't care.
Steel vs Alloy - Depends if ride quality matters and how long it has to last.
Steel vs CF - Steel [Like no-one could see that one coming. :D]
Alloy vs CF - Alloy. Still cheaper and more durable in general.
Ti vs all - Ti is a good material, just needs a good builder and is usually too expensive for most.

Now we have,
Mechanical derailleur vs Electronic derailleur - Mechanical, electronic is overkill and makes some act elitist, as does CF.
Campag EPS vs Shimano Di2 - EPS, on board diagnostics + manual positioning after fail does it for me.


sogood wrote:What's new? Without these, there wouldn't be a cycling forum!!!
There probably would be, it would just be a dull place we visit less. :mrgreen:

[Some opinions above may offend some who are easily offended. To these I say...:P]
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby Sharkey » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:41 am

dale79 wrote:
Sharkey wrote:
dale79 wrote:taking my full carbon DI2 bike to the LBS today to get a firmware update.. im almost as excited about the new features as what i was when i first got the bike..


Hey Dale

I am thinking of getting a firmware upgrade for mine too. Just one question though. If you have multi-shift, how do you check for battery charge level as holding down the button for half a second would now be programmed to change multiple gears?

I really like the DI2 on my bike but understand it's not for everyone, so as to whether it's worth the money or not is up to each individual.

Ralphy - let us know what you think when you have had a decent ride.



all done,

just hold the button for the front shifter or the rear shifter when it is at the end of its limits and it lights up as normal..


Thanks Dale, that makes sense.
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby bianchi928 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:11 am

jacks1071 wrote:
sogood wrote:
trek52 wrote:This arguement is the same as the clowns that still think steel bikes have any purpose in life other than land fill.

Steel bikes are hot and fills a good part of the market. They don't die. Similar, traditional mechanical derailleurs will also hang around for a good portion of the market. It's variety, not replacement.


Steel is so 1980's - Bamboo is where its at.


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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby TDC » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:04 am

bianchi928 wrote:
I had a bamboo bike but a Panda ate it (Boom tish...sorry)


I thought Pandas were extinct in Perth
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby ratter » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:47 pm

they are now, apparently the last known one choked on a bike :D
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby cippo » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:39 am

i'd hold off on the electronic gearing for another couple of years, until it is really taking over the market.

had a mate who had an s-works and was planning to do 3 peaks on it. but got there and the front derailuer cable and battery werent working. the bike mechanic didnt have the right tools to fix it. luckily they lent him a bike for the challenge.

electronic shifting is mostly better, just with a few drawbacks, such as availabilty and cost of parts. more things to replace if something goes wrong.
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby ratter » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:20 pm

was it just the battery going flat? The system apparently stops the front derailleur working if the charge is very low.
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby dale79 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:00 pm

yep i bet it was flat or the bike was leaning on something on the trip down and pressed the buttons which will send it flat quickly..
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby winstonw » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:19 pm

if you took global warming seriously, would you go Di2 or mech?
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby TDC » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:33 pm

winstonw wrote:if you took global warming seriously, would you go Di2 or mech?


Di2 solar...special lycra that render the whole surface area of your back as a photovoltaic cell.
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby Nobody » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:37 pm

TDC wrote:Di2 solar...special lycra that render the whole surface area of your back as a photovoltaic cell.
And then you woke up and had breakfast. :wink:
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby Mulger bill » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:40 pm

TDC wrote:
winstonw wrote:if you took global warming seriously, would you go Di2 or mech?


Di2 solar...special lycra that render the whole surface area of your back as a photovoltaic cell.


Too impractical, you'd have to be wired to the bike.
Flexible solar cells on the top tube. In shadow while riding but you get 100kms per cafe stop :wink:
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby TDC » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:43 pm

Nobody wrote:
TDC wrote:Di2 solar...special lycra that render the whole surface area of your back as a photovoltaic cell.
And then you woke up and had breakfast. :wink:


he he...maybe they will start putting generators on the bikes with electronic gears to keep the batteries charged :lol:
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby TDC » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:45 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
TDC wrote:
winstonw wrote:if you took global warming seriously, would you go Di2 or mech?


Di2 solar...special lycra that render the whole surface area of your back as a photovoltaic cell.


Too impractical, you'd have to be wired to the bike.
Flexible solar cells on the top tube. In shadow while riding but you get 100kms per cafe stop :wink:


yeah...mini nuclear reactor in the seat tube should provide enough power.
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby winstonw » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:39 pm

TDC wrote:
winstonw wrote:if you took global warming seriously, would you go Di2 or mech?


Di2 solar...special lycra that render the whole surface area of your back as a photovoltaic cell.


of course, you'd have to eat a plant based diet too, and stop breeding...and probably ride steel not carbon.
but then, who takes global warming seriously anyway.
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby TDC » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:22 am

Review of Shimano Di9070 groupset.

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/cate ... roup-47077
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby Dan » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:30 am

Mulger bill wrote:Too impractical, you'd have to be wired to the bike.


pfffft, induction mat in the saddle. Keeps the boys warm too ;)
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Re: Electronic Gears - worth the expense?

Postby ratter » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:32 pm

Sliced my right thumb open last thursday, I have 3 stiches in it, but due to their location I can not hold my bars and operate my mechanical gears without feeling like the wound is reopening, I'm hoping I can race tomorrow night with my Di2 due to having to move less to operate the gears.
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