Questions about purchasing bicycles and parts
I'm looking for a better jacket for this winter and for when it rains.
So far I'm looking at these 2
Also another plus would be something that covers the lower back as I no longer want a "soggy ass" when riding in the rain -_- my budget can only stretch to $220
Yes, I saw that topic but none of the jackets I'm looking at were discussed
let me clarify a bit, I'm after a rain jacket that isn't just a "soft shell" as I'd like to be warmer then your normal soft shell offering (which I already have anyway)
The Elite 2.0 is no 'soft-shell'. It's a regular solid shell rain jacket, very waterproof and totally wind-proof. If you want to be wamer just wear suitable clothing layers under it.
If it's a womens jacket you're after then Showerspass have the Elite 2.0 womens on special at $150 plus shipping. My wife's cost me $A195 just 10 days ago.
Last edited by il padrone on Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sorry, I assumed you wanted recommendations for the best rain jacket. I would not consider either of the items you have posted to be rain jackets. Shower resistant perhaps.
The Sportful jacket is waterproof by the looks of it, the gabba does eventually let some water in after a while?
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/s ... -in-32617/
Hmm..... sounds warm, will even keep the wind out. Waterproof? I would not rely on it Gore Windstopper is what it says ie. not waterproof.
It'd be nice to see some real water-head pressure data to be able to compare. I have seen this for the eVent fabric used in the Elite 2.0 and it is very impressive.
having a look at my wish list on wiggle I forgot about these
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/sportful-survival-goretex-winter-jacket/ - would be a little bit of a stretch budget wise
Its been mentioned that with the last couple of spring classics even the guys who weren't sponsored by castelli were wearing the gabba
Yeah I saw opqs and a few sky riders with it at milan-san remo. Guess that's the best review a clothing company could want.
OK it's breathable. And stops some water. The eVent farbric is similarly breathable (there are measures that can be done for this).
But the water protecton...... it's more than just stopping 80mm of water-head (that's about all they showed).... for a few minutes. Standard quality rain jackets have a water-head of about 5,000-8,000mm. Really good waterproof fabrics are about 10,000mm of water-head. eVent has a water-head of 30,000mm - that's a glass of water 30m high over the fabric - for 24hrs (I think they get this measure by pressurising the 'glass'). So how does that Gabba rate??
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/expert-advi ... rproofing-
I think of the gabba more of a jersey than a jacket. So obviously it's not going to be as good as a jacket at keeping water out. You've got to make some sacrifices when getting a skin tight fitting jersey instead of a full fledged winter/rain ill fitting jacket.
Buy once and buy right.
Heres another vote for the Showers Pass Elite 2.0
Good luck with the decision making.
It appears there is now a Showers Pass Elite 2.1 which is of course a little dearer than the 2.0
I'll have to do some reading to see whats been updated or upgraded.
http://www.bicyclinghub.com/showers-pas ... acket.html
it boes not flap about, but its not body hugging either, designed to have layers underneath
depends on your type of riding if you are doing flat out 50km group rides with a few sprints you will end up a bit damp inside and the showerpass jersey would be better
if brisk commuting the elite2,0 will see you arrive warm and dry
It would be used for training rides (usually around 100km+) and commuting 25km each way to work, but in he end I want something that will have a "hugging fit"
Roomy on me (but I'm a skinny guy), loose fit but flapping is not a concern. Short at the front, long at the back, Excellent venting with pit-zips, velcro cuffs and the shoulder vent. These jackets are commonly used by Audax riders who are doing 200, 300, 400, 600 and 1000km endurance rides. If it rains on the ride, they are out all day and more in it.
A "hugging fit" may be good for the Pro-team look, however it is less likely to keep you dry as well. It will not allow very much flow-through ventilation. The water-proofing of a cycling jacket used for moderate exertion depends on three things:
1. Waterproof fabric,
2. Breathability of the fabric, and
3. Design and cut of the jacket.
'Breathablility' will never keep you dry on the exertion of a 10km mountain climb, you will get sweaty. The design, with room for air flow and suitable vents, will help to reduce this. You will still get somewhat damp. Breathable fabric allows you to dry out over time when you slow the exertion down and body heat helps to push vapour out of the jacket. Jackets that have low or no breathability just leave you wet all day - in critical conditions this will place you at great risk of hypothermia.
Pro-team riders just put up with it and sling the newspaper down their jersey for some more windproofing. They are only out for 4-5 hours and riding at high exertion the whole time. Maybe that's your typical 100km ride - 30kmh+ speeds, non-stop, then home for a bath. Myself I do all sorts of riding, but often they are longer duration tours with stops for regrouping, sightseeing, lunch in a cafe, etc. I ride hard then stop for a break, then ride on. In the rain, it's important to be able to dry off during a break, rather than get the shivers and shakes.
As far as I can tell from their description, it seems that it has just been given a draught flap behind the main zip. Kinda silly as the zip is already waterproof and never gives me the hint of a draught. I won't be bothering to upgrade, until my current jacket expires.
Nor I, as I'm very happy with it. Wish it had been $199 when I bought mine though.
From memory the advice was to grab the helmet cover:
http://www.bicyclinghub.com/showers-pas ... cover.html
but unless your wanting to tour maybe pass on the accessory hood:
Personally if I was buying again, and especially at that price (199.00), I'd also grab the hood to take avantage of
the free shipping (over $250 spend).
If you wanted to know about helmet cover size I can offer that the cover is ample for my Giro Ionus size L.
Why not just buy from showers pass? $203 including delivery.
http://www.showerspass.com/catalog/clos ... s-elite-20
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