Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby MichaelB » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:01 am

Anyone recommend a source to get spare v stays for SKS Chromoplastic guards ?

Have found some places, but with postage, it is cheaper to get a whole new set of guards !!!!!

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby singlespeedscott » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:12 pm

I'd would just some new ones. They are pretty cheap.
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:39 pm

And then you'll have plenty of spares :)

No possibility of a MacGyverish approach to the problem?
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby Nobody » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:28 pm

Mulger bill wrote:No possibility of a MacGyverish approach to the problem?
This is MB you're talking about (not you, the other one :wink: ). He's too blingy for ghetto style mudguards. :P

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby takai » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:49 pm

4mm stainless wire and a pair of pliers? Going to be a pain to form nicely though.

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby MichaelB » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:51 am

Nobody wrote:
Mulger bill wrote:No possibility of a MacGyverish approach to the problem?
This is MB you're talking about (not you, the other one :wink: ). He's too blingy for ghetto style mudguards. :P
The issue that I need to get around is that the hyd hose routing of the new calipers goes right through the middle of the stays, and whilst I can bend around it, i'll need the extra length, which I don't have, hence a new stay is required.

It's a bit sad when a spare part costs more than the whole guard setup :roll:

I'll survive though :D

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby gromek » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:20 pm

had these on my commuter all year and can't fault them :) definately reccomend

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby Mulger bill » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:19 pm

Just got back to this...
Michael, I had a similar problem with the torque arm of the BB7 on my commuter.
Can you space the stay out to run outside the line of the offending parts? I got by with a longer bolt and about 6mm of tubing.

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby Nobody » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:04 pm

Irrelevant :arrow:
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby MichaelB » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:31 am

Mulger bill wrote:Just got back to this...
Michael, I had a similar problem with the torque arm of the BB7 on my commuter.
Can you space the stay out to run outside the line of the offending parts? I got by with a longer bolt and about 6mm of tubing.

Shaun
Nope. mounting point is on inside of Fork leg. Will try and get a pic up soon

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby warthog1 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:17 am

Nobody wrote:Irrelevant :arrow:
Not really, there may be others who find that picture helpful.

But now you've gone and removed it :roll: :P
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby Nobody » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:57 am

warthog1 wrote:
Nobody wrote:Irrelevant :arrow:
Not really, there may be others who find that picture helpful.

But now you've gone and removed it :roll: :P
Just for the others then. :)
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby baabaa » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:35 am

for front and rear disc brakes and those who do not wish to origami the stays these work (no rattle squeak or hum)
http://www.axiomgear.com/products/gear/ ... cessories/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby warthog1 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:13 pm

Nobody wrote:Just for the others then. :)
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Nice neat job, you did well I reckon.

Mine are going well.
Do you hear a bit of stuff being picked up by the tyres and running up the inside of the guard?

Mine are maybe 3-5mm off the tyre. Probably helps scrape some of the larger pieces of bogan confetti off the tyre on the first pass, before it has time to penetrate the tyre carcass on the second pass. :)
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby MichaelB » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:29 pm

Here is my situation ;

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I've already had to MacGyver the bolt head to clear the spokes. Likely resolutions are to bend around caliper hose but keep platic quick release for stays, or, non-preferred option is to bolt the metal stay directly to the fork leg on that one side.

Might be able to get away with it ... just some local manipulation around the hose (and a bit of anti-abrasion tubing on the seat stay as well

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby Nobody » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:18 pm

warthog1 wrote:Nice neat job, you did well I reckon.
Thanks. :)
warthog1 wrote:Mine are going well.
Did you get the long mudflap yet?
warthog1 wrote:Do you hear a bit of stuff being picked up by the tyres and running up the inside of the guard?
Not with the ones in the pic. Mine look to be about 5 to 10mm minimum off the tyre from the pic below.
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warthog1 wrote:Mine are maybe 3-5mm off the tyre. Probably helps scrape some of the larger pieces of bogan confetti off the tyre on the first pass, before it has time to penetrate the tyre carcass on the second pass. :)
I don't know the correct distance but there are plenty of opinions on the below thread.
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/mudgua ... uch.65026/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby warthog1 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:38 pm

Nobody wrote:Did you get the long mudflap yet?
Just finished holidays and the bank acct hasn't allowed another order yet :cry: :)
Nobody wrote:I don't know the correct distance but there are plenty of opinions on the below thread.
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/mudgua ... uch.65026/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'll check it out, thanks :)
I have short reach calipers though and am constrained by clearance of front tyre to fork crown and rear tyre to chainstay bridge, or the bolt that holds the guard to the bridge anyway. The rear brake caliper also limits the height of the guard.
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby singlespeedscott » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:18 pm

That's why I use centre pulls with mud guards. Heaps of clearance.
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:03 pm

MichaelB wrote:Here is my situation ;
Adjustable hose banjo on that calliper, can you swing it rearwards a tad for more line clearence? (Warning: May appear somewhat agricultural...)
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby MichaelB » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:27 am

Mulger bill wrote:
MichaelB wrote:Here is my situation ;
Adjustable hose banjo on that calliper, can you swing it rearwards a tad for more line clearence? (Warning: May appear somewhat agricultural...)
May be able to do that, but as the hose is routed internally on the fork leg, it creates sharper bends (which I'm trying to improve), so don't think that will work.

Will have a look though when the time comes.

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:28 am

MichaelB wrote:...but as the hose is routed internally on the fork leg,...
Ahhh, forgot that bit :oops: Carry on.
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby rifraf » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:48 pm

Excuse crappy pics.
I just did a mock up of my Gilles Berthoud on the front wheel (still need some fittings for the rear).
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby rifraf » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:06 pm

MichaelB wrote:Anyone recommend a source to get spare v stays for SKS Chromoplastic guards ?

Have found some places, but with postage, it is cheaper to get a whole new set of guards !!!!!
Are these them?:
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/sks-mudguard ... -prod8043/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
They sure arnt cheap.
How much were your set?

Not sure if the blumel ones are compatible?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BLUEMELS-MUD ... 35c90dffdd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:22 pm

Just found these, may do the trick

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/V-Strebenpaa ... 617&_uhb=1

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$16 delivered

It's that, or another full set of guards at $37 from c r c

*edit : Looking at the smaller mounting points, it seems that these may be the go, as it will help solve the hose clearance issue with the new calipers.

Order being submitted today :D

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Re: Mudguards for lugged commuter bikes

Postby boyracer » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:08 pm

Heres mine... p45's on 35 mm Kojak tyres. Thanks for tips fellas!
Have they sent the wrong colour? These are translucent brownish/black not opaque as expected.
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