Giant XTC 29er 2 2013 vs Scott Scale 950 2013

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Giant XTC 29er 2 2013 vs Scott Scale 950 2013

Postby cheski » Sun May 19, 2013 10:04 pm

Ok so I have been looking around, and based on my needs (casual urban city riding, and trail riding I have decided to go for a MTB/ 29er.
So at the moment I am stuck between 2:

Giant XTC 29er (Large Size) $1200 from LBS
Scott Scale 950 (Large Size) $1350 from LBS

The fact that they are similar price makes things difficult. Looking at reviews on the Giant, I have seen nothing but glowing praise for them... it seems everyone are loving them. A few forums have mentioned though that the components it wears are average. Testing it, I thought it was pretty good.
Going to another LBS, I tried the Scott which when I picked up, immediately noticed it was lighter (think its around 11-12kgs where the Giants are a few more). The fact the young guy would only allow me to ride it around the car park was a bit lame, though was impressed with the fact that the suspension lock-out (3 settings (on/mid/lock) was controlled from a switch on the handle bar.
Riding them, it seemed that the Scott was a bit better, though im not totally sure (due to the scott dealer not letting me test it properly).

As im not sure about better specs, I was wondering if some people could let me know which one is better, and any opinions about the 2. Any other brand/ model suggestions would also be considered if around the same price bracket.

The specs of the 2 bikes are:

GIANT XTC 29er 2013

Frame ALUXX SL-Grade Aluminium
Fork RockShox Recon Silver TK w/ 15QR thru-axle, OverDrive, 100mm Travel
Shock N/A
COMPONENTS
Handlebar Giant Connect, Riser, 31.8
Stem Giant Connect, OverDrive
Seatpost Giant Connect, 30.9
Saddle Giant Performance MTB
Pedals Shimano M520
DRIVETRAIN
Shifters Shimano Deore, 3x10 Speed
Front Derailleur Shimano Deore
Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore XT
Brakes Shimano M445 hydraulic, 160mm
Brake Levers Shimano M445
Cassette Shimano HG62 11x36, 10-Speed
Chain KMC X10
Crankset Shimano M552, 24/32/42
Bottom Bracket Shimano, Press Fit
WHEELS
Rims Giant S-XC29er 2, Double Wall
Hubs [F] Giant Tracker Sealed/CNC w/ 15mm Axle, [R] Formula Sealed Bearing, 32h
Spokes Stainless Steel Black, 14g
Tires Schwalbe Racing Ralph, 29x2.1 Performance Folding

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-au/bik ... ifications


SCOTT SCALE 950 2013

Weight
11,7kg / 25,77lbs
Frame
SCOTT Scale 29 Alloy 6061
Custom Butted superligHeadtube tubing
forged race disc dropouts 160PM
bridgeless seatstays
Integ. Headset / Replaceable hanger
Fork
FOX 32 Float 29 Evolution CTD Air
CTD damper with 3 modes
alloy 1 1/8" steerer
reb. Adj. / 100 mm travel
Remote System
SCOTT LRD suspension technologie
lock - ride / platform - descend
activate by Rideloc Remote Lever
Lockout - Platform - 100mm
Headset
Ritchey OE 1 1/8"
semi integrated 44/50mm
Derailleur (Rear)
Shimano XT RD-M781 SGS
Shadow Type / 30 Speed
Derailleur (Front)
Shimano SLX FC-M670 / 34.9mm
Shifters
Shimano SLX SL-M670
Rapidfire plus / 2 way release
w/gear indicator
Brake Levers
Shimano BL-M505 Disc
Brakes
Shimano BR-M446 Disc
180/F and 160/R mm Rotor
Crankset
Shimano FC-M552
2-piece Design
42Ax32Ax24T
BB-Set
Shimano Cartridge / 68mm shell
Handlebar
Syncros FL2.5 Tbar
6061 / 9° / 700mm
H'stem
Syncros FL2.0
2014 Alloy / oversize 31.8mm
1-1/8" / 6° angle
Pedals
Wellgo M-21
Seatpost
Syncros FL2.5 / 31.6mm
Seat
Syncros XR2.5
Hub (Front)
Formula CL51
Hub (Rear)
Shimano FH-M595 Disc CL
Chain
KMC X10
Cassette
Shimano CS-HG62-10
11-36 T
Spokes
DT Swiss Champion Black 1.8mm
Rims
Syncros XC-49 Disc
32H / Eyelets
Tires
Schwalbe Rocket Ron
29 x 2.1 / 67EPI Kevlar Bead
Performance Serie

http://www.scott-sports.com/global/en/p ... Zi-SLXIuKI


Thanks Guys :)
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by BNA » Mon May 20, 2013 12:01 pm

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Re: Giant XTC 29er 2 2013 vs Scott Scale 950 2013

Postby mitzikatzi » Mon May 20, 2013 12:01 pm

Both bikes will be more than suitable for "casual urban city riding, and trail riding". Both these bikes can be ridden on "proper" single track.

Buy from the shop you like best. If money is tight the cheaper bike.

On spec I would buy the Scott. Fox fork.

Depending on your definition of trail riding a cheaper bike may well be suitable.
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Re: Giant XTC 29er 2 2013 vs Scott Scale 950 2013

Postby cheski » Thu May 23, 2013 10:54 am

mitzikatzi wrote:Both bikes will be more than suitable for "casual urban city riding, and trail riding". Both these bikes can be ridden on "proper" single track.

Buy from the shop you like best. If money is tight the cheaper bike.

On spec I would buy the Scott. Fox fork.

Depending on your definition of trail riding a cheaper bike may well be suitable.



Thanks Mitzikatzi for your reply.

Besides the fork, is the Scott better all round? Like are the cranks, brakes, gears ect.. of better quality?

If anyone wants to put there 2 cents in, please feel free to do so. :)
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Re: Giant XTC 29er 2 2013 vs Scott Scale 950 2013

Postby danny the boy » Thu May 23, 2013 12:21 pm

Scott has slightly better gears. The Giant should also have a fork lockout on the handlebars but only on/off, little lever and a button, I've seen them cheaper than $1200 but sizes start getting scarce this time of year. If you are thinking of doing a bit more than rail trail/bike path stuff then pay the extra for the Scott but if not you are kinda paying too much for you needs even if you went for the Giant. One vist to a MTB bike and you will be hooked.
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Re: Giant XTC 29er 2 2013 vs Scott Scale 950 2013

Postby schurms » Sun May 26, 2013 7:15 pm

I bought a Giant XTR 29er for my son and it is an excellent bike. I have alternated between his 29er hardtail and my dualie (full carbon santa cruz blur Trc) and it is a great rolling bike for single track - I often sneak out early on his bike for a different ride. It goes anywhere my dualie does and it all comes down to rider skill and confidence. The fork has a progressive lockout on the top of the shock. I have recommended the Giant to other friends and it is a great starters bike.
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