201 cm human frame = ?? cm bike frame?

[toolonglegs]

I reckon you had a data entry issue. For a start, you should be using cm, not mm.

I will dig out my steve hogg info and get it right!...give me sec.

Lol - that was for Kennyrocks, not you. The competivecyclist fit calc inputs and reports in cm's, but takes number in fractions anyway.

Doh...LOL...yeah they are some pretty measurements he has there!...especially top tube length if I am reading it right.

[toolonglegs]

I should look at his stuff more often,I have only just started turning my saddle to the left 1 degree after quite a while having it front on...must be because I havent done yoga in 6 months and my hip problem is coming back.
I bear 8kg more on my left leg standing at rest!.1 kg is considered excessive!.

[Mikka]

If I'm not mistaken, Cannondale goes up to 64cm, I reckon that's what you need. You need a BIG bike.

Amen. I'd be aiming for the French fit .. You're gonna need 60cm + on the top tube ... Cranks about a metre long ... and 900mm wheels ...

[twizzle]

I WIN

My 'L' on your sheet is (measured from the bike) 1050 with a 175mm crank length. And I didn't measure to the pedal spindle, I measured to the top of the pedal, so that probably makes it ~1060.

[Zujan]

Toolonglegs,your L=1006,how did you end up with 1090 this is 84mm over????
twizzle,your L=1060 how do you stop at the traffic lights????
Im confused,let me messure my L again..............

[Zujan]

so let me see,so Im 195.5cm tall.....Cervelo 61 stands as follows;
L=1035mm to C/L of pedal spindle to the top of seat
L= 1020mm to top of the pedal
J=635mm
M=630mm

A=590mm

[kennyrocks]

whoops! Yes I've been entering the data in mm instead of cm. How embarrassing. Being an engineer it is automatic to use mm-i.e. I would say 1000mm instead of one metre usually. I will try again tomorrow and post up the proper results, no wonder they were so confusing!
Thanks for heading me in the right direction

[Zujan]

Sorry got it wrong...1.09 meters...1090mm or add another 25mm on when I am on my cannondale with 180mm cranks.

I am all legs...hence the screen name.

hey,this is wrong,you mean add another 2.5mm.........so I reckon it is 1009 or when on Cannondale 1011.5mm?????

[toolonglegs]

Toolonglegs,your L=1006,how did you end up with 1090 this is 84mm over????
twizzle,your L=1060 how do you stop at the traffic lights????
Im confused,let me messure my L again..............

Yeah ignore what I said before...i have a memory like a ...?
But yeah 1006 with 180mm cranks or 1008-9 with 175 cranks.
Twizzle how tall are you....your legs are 5 cm longer than mine...

[Zujan]

I bear 8kg more on my left leg standing at rest!.1 kg is considered excessive!.

hehe my kids 'Wii Sport' saying that Im perfectly balanced,even my kids at 8 and 11 are slightly out of balance...
but question is;can you trust a Wii?

[toolonglegs]

Sorry got it wrong...1.09 meters...1090mm or add another 25mm on when I am on my cannondale with 180mm cranks.

I am all legs...hence the screen name.

hey,this is wrong,you mean add another 2.5mm.........so I reckon it is 1009 or when on Cannondale 1011.5mm?????

maths..whats that?....
1006mm when on 180mm cranks....as i was fitted.
Plus 2.5mm on the Ribble with 175mm cranks.

[toolonglegs]

I bear 8kg more on my left leg standing at rest!.1 kg is considered excessive!.

hehe my kids 'Vii Sport' saying that Im perfectly balanced,even my kids at 8 and 11 are slightly out of balance...

yeah 8kgs is a bit much...will recheck it one day...was 3 years ago.

[Zujan]

="toolonglegsTwizzle how tall are you....your legs are 5 cm longer than mine...

I can not belive that he is on 1060........my God,those are very long legs then.....I mean Im 195.5 cm tall and my LBS saying that they have fitted only one men with legs longer then mine;his name is Glenn McGrath......but 1060,woooops....

[kennyrocks]

="toolonglegsTwizzle how tall are you....your legs are 5 cm longer than mine...

I can not belive that he is on 1060........my God,those are very long legs then.....I mean Im 195.5 cm tall and my LBS saying that they have fitted only one men with legs longer then mine;his name is Glenn McGrath......but 1060,woooops....

Haha another opening bowler here, the look on the bike store bloke's face when I walk in almost makes up for the fact that theres almost nothing in my size.
Here are my corrected results:

The Competitive Fit The Eddy Fit The French Fit
Seat tube range c-c 60.9 - 61.4 62.1 - 62.6 63.8 - 64.3
Seat tube range c-t 62.8 - 63.3 64.0 - 64.5 65.7 - 66.2
Top tube length 59.0 - 59.4 59.0 - 59.4 60.2 - 60.6
Stem Length 12.2 - 12.8 11.1 - 11.7 11.3 - 11.9
BB-Saddle Position 93.5 - 95.5 92.7 - 94.7 91.0 - 93.0
Saddle-Handlebar 57.9 - 58.5 58.7 - 59.3 60.4 - 61.0
Saddle Setback 5.4 - 5.8 6.6 - 7.0 6.1 - 6.5

Cheers

EDIT: This means an Allez in 61 cm frame would fit me referring to the geometry. Hooray! lol

[twizzle]

O.K. - you got me.

I rechecked, it's 106cm from pedal spindle to the top of seat in line with the seat tube.

Now - I'm not saying it's the height it *should* be. I can still drop my heels when pedalling, it's smooth at cadence, and I don't think my hips are rocking - but they could be. Certainly, no-one has said anything to me when I'm riding, and me knees are still bent at the bottom of the stroke. And if I drop the saddle by a couple of cm's, my knees start locking up when pedalling... the result of knee injuries in the past. It's the height which 'works for me' as it were.

I'll be doing some more 'me' measurements tonight. Results tomorrow... when I have time. Wife and daughter are away in Syd tomorrow, so it's me and the three boys for the day.

[twizzle]

O.K. - last of the kids went to sleep, so I could strip down and measure. And pull some numbers from my bike fit last year, which hasn't seen the light of day since they did the fit. Although, along the way, I cocked up the seat height and have been 'playing' ever since to get it back the way it was.

Inseam - 95.2.
My height (just measured) 190.3. I'm pissed off - I used to be ~ 2 - 3cm taller!

After plugging all my numbers (taken as best I could by myself) in to the fit calculator, it gives a BB spindle to seat height max of 88.4, plus my crank arm of 17.5cm gives me 105.9 as the absolute max calculated height for 'L'. And you will love this - there it was, sitting on the bike fit from the physio last year - predicted seat height of 105.9. Mind you, they didn't say how this measurement was to be checked... but my seat height from the ground is 113cm, so there is no way in hell it was for measuring that.

TLL - I'll be having your user name, thank you very much. 'Too long legs' indeed. You shall hereafter be known as 'Almost Too Long Legs'.

[twizzle]

BB-Saddle Position 93.5 - 95.5 92.7 - 94.7 91.0 - 93.0

Throw in 17.5cm or 18cm for cranks, and I think we have a new TLL.

[twizzle]

twizzle,your L=1060 how do you stop at the traffic lights????

The usual - slow down, forget to unclip, fall over

Seriously : unclip and stand on right foot. Obviously, not while in the saddle. I'm on a hybrid so the BB is quite high up to start with.

[toolonglegs]

Pretty impressive leg lengths....I want to see a photo of the long legged crab man a bike .Interesting when I had a bike fit with Steve Hogg he said that out of all the people he has fitted...say from 140cm to 200cm,the actual body/torso length is always within 8cm...so the variations are all in the limbs!.

[Mikka]

You guys must have happy wives ....

[twizzle]

Pretty impressive leg lengths....I want to see a photo of the long legged crab man a bike .Interesting when I had a bike fit with Steve Hogg he said that out of all the people he has fitted...say from 140cm to 200cm,the actual body/torso length is always within 8cm...so the variations are all in the limbs!.

So ATLL, what's you inseam?

And boring story (just to prove I'm a 'sensitive male'), a couple of weeks ago after starting to increase the K's after sickness I started getting pain around the ITB's near the hip joint, so I dropped the seat by 2mm and it went away. Now, where is that pea in my bed...

[wintal]

Hmm, what worries me here is my pedal-seat distance is 1037 (from a professional bike fitting), but I'm only 183cm tall. I'm obviously a freak

[Mikka]

Hmm, what worries me here is my pedal-seat distance is 1037 (from a professional bike fitting), but I'm only 183cm tall. I'm obviously a freak

Mmmh .. I can see you're headed for a recumbent ...

[Kalgrm]

Sorry got it wrong...1.09 meters...1090mm or add another 25mm on when I am on my cannondale with 180mm cranks.

I am all legs...hence the screen name.

hey,this is wrong,you mean add another 2.5mm.........so I reckon it is 1009 or when on Cannondale 1011.5mm?????

maths..whats that?....
1006mm when on 180mm cranks....as i was fitted.
Plus 2.5mm on the Ribble with 175mm cranks.

TLL,

Can you explain to me why you're only raising your seat height 2.5mm when the crank is 5mm shorter please? I would have assumed you would need to raise it the full 5mm to keep the same knee extension when the pedal is down.

Cheers,
Graeme

[toolonglegs]

hey,this is wrong,you mean add another 2.5mm.........so I reckon it is 1009 or when on Cannondale 1011.5mm?????

maths..whats that?....
1006mm when on 180mm cranks....as i was fitted.
Plus 2.5mm on the Ribble with 175mm cranks.

TLL,

Can you explain to me why you're only raising your seat height 2.5mm when the crank is 5mm shorter please? I would have assumed you would need to raise it the full 5mm to keep the same knee extension when the pedal is down.

Cheers,
Graeme

Maths!...yes 5mm is right...sorry,gosh I must be tired!!!.