Pirelli back in bicycle tyres - P-Zero Velo

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Pirelli back in bicycle tyres - P-Zero Velo

Postby g-boaf » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:24 am

Pirelli is back in bicycle tyres with the P-Zero Velo range:

http://www.bicyclingaustralia.com.au/ne ... velo-range
http://veloworld.pirelli.com/global/en- ... erformance

Don't know a lot about them yet. Just on the market here.

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Postby MichaelB » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:44 am

Was hoping to get a pair of the Velo 4S to try for BNA.

Could be an interesting contender ...

Interesting to see what the pricing (online sites) & actual size is like when installed.

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Postby 2wheels_mond » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:40 pm

Lordgun Bicycles in Italy have the Velo selling for $48, so I'd imagine the UK retailers will be similarly priced. Interesting to see a new contender at that end of the market.

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Postby rodneycc » Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:41 pm

Pushys selling them $75. They will need to come down I would think to compete with the Conti's.

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Postby g-boaf » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:02 pm

MichaelB wrote:Was hoping to get a pair of the Velo 4S to try for BNA.

Could be an interesting contender ...

Interesting to see what the pricing (online sites) & actual size is like when installed.


I can get them this afternoon, but I won't chance them on big rides coming up.

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Postby mikgit » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:20 pm

interesting the velo 4s is dearer than the velo, thought it was going to be the other way around. I want to try some to see what theyr'e like, but I still have a pile of gp4ks to get through.
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Postby macca33 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:04 pm

Tempted, but like mikgit, I have a few sets of GP4kS, Vittorias, etc, etc to get through first...
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Postby mikgit » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:18 pm

So anyone tried them yet?
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Postby g-boaf » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:49 pm

mikgit wrote:So anyone tried them yet?



Not yet, still have some Continental tyres to get through.

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Postby Mububban » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:42 pm

mikgit wrote:So anyone tried them yet?


They reviewed well against the ubiquitous GP4000S II for rolling resistance:

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And puncture protection:

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The new range of Pirelli road bike tires consists of three tires.
The first and most all-round tire is the Pirelli P Zero Velo that can be seen as a direct competitor to popular tires like the Continental Grand Prix 4000S II.

The second tire is an ultra-light time-trial tire: Pirelli P Zero Velo TT.

The third is an all-season version with a compound that's optimized more towards cold and wet conditions: Pirelli P Zero Velo 4S.

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.co ... -velo-2017
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Postby MichaelB » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:44 am

Interesting. I currently use the Continental Grand Prix (2014) normal and GT versions in 25C and love them. Using the above link, did a compare, and they do pretty well compared to the 4000II & GP 4 Season.
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-bike-reviews/compare/continental-grand-prix-2014-vs-continental-grand-prix-4000s-ii-2014-vs-continental-grand-prix-4-season-2015

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Postby hamishm » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:29 pm

Mububban wrote:
mikgit wrote:So anyone tried them yet?


They reviewed well against the ubiquitous GP4000S II for rolling resistance:

But not better, so what would be the point in switching?

Which size tyre was that anyway?

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Postby mikesbytes » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:24 pm

Strong wet weather claim is always interesting. The original GP4000 had insufficient wet weather grip, as can be confirmed by the 2 riders that I took out 300mtrs from the end of a race a few years back. That problem was fixed by the GP4000s which appeared to me to have a big improvement in wet weather grip. If these tyres have even more wet weather grip than the current race Conti's, Michelin's, Veloflex etc, then that's a claim worth investigating
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Postby Mububban » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:35 pm

hamishm wrote:But not better, so what would be the point in switching?

Which size tyre was that anyway?


Try something different? Some people like to experiment.

I think they were 25s.
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Postby flashpixx » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:45 pm

have a Pushy's gift voucher compliments of cancelled Ride Review mag subs
just ordered some Velo S 25mm
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Postby stevecassidy » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:50 am

I was in the LBS yesterday wondering about new tyres since I've had a series of flats lately and it was getting annoying. They had the Pirelli's on display so I decided to splash out on a pair of 4s so that I could go riding today. The guy in the shop was talking up the grip. I rode them today and certainly noticed the difference from my 18 month old GP4000s. They mounted very easily. It could be the fact that I just dropped $150 on a pair of tyres working on my psyche but they did feel smooth and descending with the bunch was pretty fast which is unusual for me. So, first impressions are good.

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Postby macca33 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:08 pm

With Conti GP4Ksii on sale at $41 each on Wiggles - I know which way I just went!
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Postby mikgit » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:31 pm

any ride reviews? i mean real world, not "reviews"
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Postby stevecassidy » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:52 pm

mikgit wrote:any ride reviews? i mean real world, not "reviews"


I don't think I'm very good at reviewing tyres. I've been riding them for a few months now and they've been good. I've not really noticed them. Grip has been good and a few rides in the wet were uneventful. I've swapped them between wheels a couple of times and they are very easy to mount on the rim without having to reach for a lever. Very happy with them but I don't know that they are much different to GP4000s (apart from the mounting/removal).

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Postby Duck! » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:35 pm

mikesbytes wrote:Strong wet weather claim is always interesting. The original GP4000 had insufficient wet weather grip, as can be confirmed by the 2 riders that I took out 300mtrs from the end of a race a few years back. That problem was fixed by the GP4000s which appeared to me to have a big improvement in wet weather grip. If these tyres have even more wet weather grip than the current race Conti's, Michelin's, Veloflex etc, then that's a claim worth investigating

Belated response, but were you using black or coloured tread tyres at the time? Due to the pigments, the colours did have less grip than the black tyres, which is one reason why the GP4000s was only offered in black.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Postby mikgit » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:48 am

stevecassidy wrote:
mikgit wrote:any ride reviews? i mean real world, not "reviews"


I don't think I'm very good at reviewing tyres. I've been riding them for a few months now and they've been good. I've not really noticed them. Grip has been good and a few rides in the wet were uneventful. I've swapped them between wheels a couple of times and they are very easy to mount on the rim without having to reach for a lever. Very happy with them but I don't know that they are much different to GP4000s (apart from the mounting/removal).

Steve


Yeah thats a good info review.
I still would't mind trying them, I don't need any tyres...but the trying of stuff...I so want to.
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Postby g-boaf » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:30 am

I nearly went for those myself, but at near enough the same price decided on S-Works Turbo 26C (the Specialized alternative to 25mm). The shop had both. The S-Works seems to have awesome grip in the corners and rolls pretty well.

With the GP4000S and GP4000S II I never had any trouble in the rain with them, so if the Pirelli is better than that, then they must be good.

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Postby mikesbytes » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:03 pm

Duck! wrote:
mikesbytes wrote:Strong wet weather claim is always interesting. The original GP4000 had insufficient wet weather grip, as can be confirmed by the 2 riders that I took out 300mtrs from the end of a race a few years back. That problem was fixed by the GP4000s which appeared to me to have a big improvement in wet weather grip. If these tyres have even more wet weather grip than the current race Conti's, Michelin's, Veloflex etc, then that's a claim worth investigating

Belated response, but were you using black or coloured tread tyres at the time? Due to the pigments, the colours did have less grip than the black tyres, which is one reason why the GP4000s was only offered in black.

The GP4000 were full black

When your second wheel behind a track sprinter 300mtrs from the finish of the Sydney road titles your willing to find that limit :(

While back on this topic, do any modern tyres have their wet weather grip changed by the aging of the tyre? Back in the day there were those who use to store the tyres for a couple of years before using them.
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Postby Ross » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:24 am

Pirelli returns to professional racing with Aqua Blue Sport sponsorship

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/produ ... ing-376304

ollowing its return to the cycling market, Pirelli has announced a partnership with the Irish Pro Continental team Aqua Blue Sport. The 3T Strada bike of the team is designed around 28mm tyres, giving it unique aerodynamic characteristics. For this reason, Pirelli are providing the team with a bespoke 28mm tubular tyres.

According to Pirelli, the deal is not just about providing branded tyres. Instead, the Italian company is using the opportunity to have a “genuine technical collaboration” and feedback with the team. The brand hopes it will lead to specific and unique tyre solutions in the future. In particular, the development of tubular tyres that it will one day bring to market.

The tyres will be first raced this weekend at the Amstel Gold Race, then continue through the season. Pirelli says that at each race additional new solutions will be added to the tyre.

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Postby MichaelB » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:45 am

Ross wrote:Pirelli returns to professional racing with Aqua Blue Sport sponsorship



Pity they wont be riding any GT's this year :?

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