Recommendations for bike tool kit
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Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby BobtheBuilder » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:19 pm
My bias is towards good quality, but not unnecessarily fancy or obscure tools. Just the basic stuff to fully take apart 'normal' bikes (yes, I know that's a fuzzy term!) Including cable cutters, bracket removal tool, chain whip tool, etc.
Any suggestions / recommendations most welcome!
Including brands to avoid!
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby Tim » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:52 pm
You're better off assembling a collection of tools bit by bit as each new maintenance or repair job requires.
For a complete bike disassembly/assembly I'd list the necessary tools and buy the best quality affordable. I have a loathing of cheap tools. I generally buy tools for a lifetime, not on a budget, hang the expense. Park Tools are overpriced but decent quality. Many of the tools such as pliers, cable cutters, torque wrenches, Allen keys, spanners, screwdrivers, cutting blades etc aren't bike specific and quality brands such as Sidchrome, Kinchrome and Stanley can be purchased at reasonable prices.
Explore your local hardware store, then check Buntings, then buy bike-specifics.
PS. Don't buy any tool named after an animal eg. Elephant Brand adjustable spanners, cheap Chinese crap.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby BobtheBuilder » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:00 pm
Tim wrote:You're better off assembling a collection of tools bit by bit as each new maintenance or repair job requires.
Thanks Tim, that's probably good advice - I do have lots of the basic stuff already. It's a bit easy to get seduced by a nice new, complete kit!
My problem, though, is that I live in a remote area and can't easily buy bike tools - it's either a 600km round trip to Darwin or a week+ after ordering online.
Do you know of anywhere that lists recommended tools? I should probably just identify what I need and source it.
You mention Park Tools is overpriced - which other brands are good quality (I hate cheap tools also) but appropriately priced, do you know?
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby Tim » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:18 pm
https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/
How's your financial situation?
To be honest, nearly all my bike special tools (not many) are from Park. I really don't know about the others.
Someone will chime in soon with some recommendations.
As a start though, what sort of bike/s do you have?
Some tools such as chain breakers work on all/most makes, models and types and others are more specific to individual bikes.
Edit; having stood all high and mighty on tool quality, on reflection some of the cheaper kits are probably perfectly adequate for occasional use, but I don't know which.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby Trevtassie » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:09 pm
I know Pro tools are ok.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:00 am
I have a weird mix of tools from various brands. Have a BBB spoke wrench, chain-breaker and cable cutter, Park Tool 4th hand cable stretcher (can't do centre-pulls without them really) and various other bits like bottom bracket tools from SuperB and IceToolz.BobtheBuilder wrote:Just looking for recommendations for a bike tool kit for home use.
My bias is towards good quality, but not unnecessarily fancy or obscure tools. Just the basic stuff to fully take apart 'normal' bikes (yes, I know that's a fuzzy term!) Including cable cutters, bracket removal tool, chain whip tool, etc.
Any suggestions / recommendations most welcome!
Including brands to avoid!
The issue with kits is that some of the components work ok once or twice. I've found this with things like cone and headset wrenches. And also crank removal tools.
And the other issue being you may need variations of a tool, like a Bottom Bracket removal tool, but the kit only has one type. So you end up adding to the kit anyway.
Maybe just find the bike-specific stuff individually, and use normal spanners/hex wrenches/screwdrivers etc.
So a crank puller :
https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/buy/bike ... re/YC-216C
a cassette removal tool for Shimano cassettes:
https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/buy/bike ... /YC-126-2A
a Bottom Bracket tool :
https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/buy/bike ... YC-26BB-CP
Cable cutters :
https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/buy/cabl ... ol/SJ-1363
the problem though is that buying a kit like this :
https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/buy/bicy ... an/SC-168A
is far more efficient $-wise. Actually this kit doesn't appear to be too bad. If you were buying equivalent shop quality stuff (Park Tool, Hozan etc) you would be paying hundreds more to replicate.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby BobtheBuilder » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:13 am
I say keep standing high and mighty! My mate who knows a lot more than me about bike repair and has been giving me heaps of help recently with a few little projects got a cheap kit from Aldi and we've been feeling the pain ... and having to go to the local bike supply place (i.e. a tiny section of the camping/fishing/shooting shop, Rod and Rifle by name) for replacement parts, i.e. a crank puller that threaded both itself and a crankset (RIP), so more cost and hassle from cheap tools. With the bottom bracket tool we've resorted to clamping it in with a D clamp and putting a 1 metre length of hosepipe over it as leverage, a very two-person job!Tim wrote:high and mighty on tool quality ... some of the cheaper kits are probably perfectly adequate for occasional use
These experiences have reinforced my desire for proper tools!
Though he did weld up a patented "crank persuader" to finally remove a very stubborn crank ...
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby BobtheBuilder » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:18 am
Yes, this is the conundrum. I have most of the basic things, like Allen keys, spanners, screwdrivers, sledgehammer, pile-driver but is buying the bike-specific stuff piecemeal cheaper than just getting a good-quality full kit all in one, even if you duplicate lots of the basic stuff?10speedsemiracer wrote: Maybe just find the bike-specific stuff individually, and use normal spanners/hex wrenches/screwdrivers etc.
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the problem though is that buying a kit like this :
https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/buy/bicy ... an/SC-168A
is far more efficient $-wise.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:32 am
OK, then if you're not averse to spending some $s, start with this :BobtheBuilder wrote:I say keep standing high and mighty! My mate who knows a lot more than me about bike repair and has been giving me heaps of help recently with a few little projects got a cheap kit from Aldi and we've been feeling the pain ... and having to go to the local bike supply place (i.e. a tiny section of the camping/fishing/shooting shop, Rod and Rifle by name) for replacement parts, i.e. a crank puller that threaded both itself and a crankset (RIP), so more cost and hassle from cheap tools. With the bottom bracket tool we've resorted to clamping it in with a D clamp and putting a 1 metre length of hosepipe over it as leverage, a very two-person job!Tim wrote:high and mighty on tool quality ... some of the cheaper kits are probably perfectly adequate for occasional use
These experiences have reinforced my desire for proper tools!
Though he did weld up a patented "crank persuader" to finally remove a very stubborn crank ...
https://www.pushys.com.au/super-b-21-pi ... l-set.html
and add the cable cutters and Cartridge BB tool from SuperB or BBB or even Park Tool. Have had good experience with all of these brands. The trick with a crank puller is to make sure the threaded sleeve section is screwed all the way in to the crank before going for extraction. I think we've all learned this the hard way.
Can't stress this one point too much, good cable cutters are a pleasure to use and make the job easy and professional-looking.
Bad cable cutters give you Anxiety/Depression/Anger regulation issues and the bike ends up looking like Stevie Wonder did the cabling.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:42 am
https://www.pushys.com.au/kobie-bicycle ... stand.html
This is the cheapie that I have, there are lots of others.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby BobtheBuilder » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:51 am
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby BobtheBuilder » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:53 am
Yeah, think that's where it went wrong!10speedsemiracer wrote:The trick with a crank puller is to make sure the threaded sleeve section is screwed all the way in
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby BobtheBuilder » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:56 am
This bike-mania started a few weeks ago as a "I'm finally going to get those wrecks going", so am going to try resist the temptation to buy a stand. Can probably weld something up cheap that'll suffice. Or put up with it!10speedsemiracer wrote:And I forgot, you will need a stand if you're going to be doing multiple bikes
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby bychosis » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:12 am
I’d recommend buying the kit, then if you find you are using a tool a lot get a quality replacement. Not point spending a fortune on expensive tools you will only use a couple of times.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby OnTrackZeD » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:05 am
http://www.this link is broken.au/x-tools-perfor ... -tool-kit/
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby Neddysmith » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:41 am
For tools i will be using often i am of the opinion of pay a bit bit more buy quality and itll last a lifetime, but for some of the more obscure tools or ones that get used less frequently cheaper ones will generally do just as good a job.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby RobertL » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:17 pm
The big T-handles really make things easier. You can pay a lot more than that for really good hex wrenches, but the advantage we have working on bikes is that most hex bolts are at a relatively low torque setting (compared to motor vehicle or plant and equipment), so you do not need the extra strength of the very best sets.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby BobtheBuilder » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:28 pm
List of what I think I need. I have most of the basic things you'd expect in a tool collection. Bike specific:-
Tools needed
* cable cutter
* bracket remover
* chain checker
* freewheel remover
* freewheel turner / chain whip
* pedal wrench
* cartridge bottom bracket tool (Shimano type)
* chain brush
* bottom bracket & headset lock ring tool – could just use multi-grip
* calipers - probably not necessary, but seems like a good thing to have
* headset wrench ?? - could get by with other tools
* hub-cone wrenches (13x14x15x16mm) ?? - could get by with other tools
* hex key wrench set – ball-end would be useful, have them otherwise
* adjustable bottom bracket cup tool – fairly unlikely to need
Anything missing?
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:13 pm
The list you've compiled pretty much covers it.
There may be tools specific to the typed of bikes you work on but you'll determine that as you go. For example I went thru a phase of centre-pull brakes on bikes, so I grabbed a Park Tool cable stretcher (called a 4th hand). But most people won't ever need one.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
Postby BobtheBuilder » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:53 pm
After being tempted by all the bangs and whistles I went for a fairly good quality basic kit augmented by a good cable cutter.
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
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Re: Recommendations for bike tool kit
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