Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
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Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby HappyHumber » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:29 am
Anyway, here are some unofficially compiled and presented stats from the Audax Club Parisien official data. Much easier to navigate than the actual PBP site, for those that like giving themselves goosebumps looking at numbers.
But whilst I am on the topic would there be any BNA membership support for an Audax/Randonneuring sub? I can't see it being any less active than a few other existing ones. We all have our niches.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby cameronp » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:40 pm
I'm all for a BNA Audax subforum. It sounds like there's a fair few Audaxers on here already; I'd include myself in that group, though my ambitions outstrip my achievements.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby HappyHumber » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:00 pm
I realise Audax can be a little niche at times. My experience is the active membership, at least here in WA, changes a little from year to year as each person sets their goals for the year. Some drop out due to injury or whatever. Some will return after a few years absence. It can be a lot more time consuming than other cycle sports so it tends to lend itself to more only a certain demographic as well. Definitely not for those with young families, I admit.
Proposal : Creation of a new subforum called "Audax / Randonneuring" : Marathon Cycling. Going the Distance.
I'll just bump this to the mods, see what they say, if anyone else wishes to second it or offer suggestions. Maybe one or two existing Aussie ride threads can be moved here. Whatever. Like I said; I doub't it'll be any less active than some other sub-forums on here.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby HappyHumber » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:16 pm
I've msged the divine powers and bought my bit with colours above to their attention.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby gabrielle260 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:02 pm
+2Ross wrote:+1 on an Audax type forum
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:14 pm
I agree. About half the field on Sunday's Audax ride here in Sydney were BNA members. And we also need to know if we can stay at Kim's place when we head over for the PAP.biker jk wrote:I certainly would find an Audax sub-forum useful. There's definitely more than a few BNA members who participate in Audax, if not regularly.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:19 pm
Suggestions on the best sub forum for an Audax room? General? Serious? Road? Touring? Open to any and all ideas including stickies...
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:06 am
Probably serious would be best. There are off-road, on-road, mixed surface, one-day and multi-day events, so Road and Touring don't incorporate everything. Serious is probably a better option. Maybe name it Randonneuring instead of Audax, since Audax specifically refers to a club in Australia rather than just a style of riding.Mulger bill wrote:That's five, good enough for me. I'll back it.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:11 am
One key question - is it sorted into Road Racing? (Road Racing is more-so road cycling which is more appropriate, however I would prefer to retain the section name).
Alternatively in Serious Biking - very well suited though could get lost if it is viewed as a road cycling / road racing related sub-forum.
I will go with the popular vote on this.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby HappyHumber » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:28 am
Kinda hence my suggestion for 'Marathon Cycling: Going the Distance' as the little by-line that appears next to some subforums when you browse the main forum index.
I myself use the words 'marathon' & 'endurance ' when I explain the sport to people. Indeed, the WA Regional Club Trailer presently living at my house predates current Audax Australia colours and livery by around 20 years and has 'marathon cycling' as its secondary text under the main, bold word AUDAX
In terms of classification, I would prefer myself it to be under Serious vs Racing for these reasons. Its more formal than some of the existing other subforums in Serious, but it's definitely not Racing.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby HappyHumber » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:53 am
'Randoneuring' seems to have more international foothold as the term these days, probably in no small part due to the Seppos and it also having more obvious French cachet. But I kind of like acknowleging the more UK & Aussie historical preference for the word 'Audax'. If we can use both, allowing for a '/' between them that'd be my choice.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby Tim » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:01 am
As such I think a new Audax topic would be more appropriately located under the Cycle Touring section of the forum.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby chucknitro » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:06 am
I prefer "Randonneuring" under Serious. It's definitely not racing. And it's not touring (where you decide where to go and when, then carry a lot of camping gear I have never seen on an Audax ride).
There has been a move to other surfaces other than road, including mixed terrain and dirt. So, not under "Road Racing" either.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby HappyHumber » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:18 am
Touring to me implies no time limit on a course that isnt formally defined in terms of route or distance before you start. There are no controls or checkpoints, etc other than what rider sets for themselves as they go.Tim wrote:I don't know about the present descriptor but Audax riding used to be called "Timed Touring".
As such I think a new Audax topic would be more appropriately located under the Cycle Touring section of the forum.
Sometimes people get randonneuring and touring confused, and there can be a bit of overlap in the types and styles of bikes used but these points are really what distinguishes touring and Audax, IMO. Certainly, I dont think Audax is any more touring than it is racing. Theres elements of both there, but the formal definitions distinguish them.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:27 am
I get the feedback on Road Racing and a distinction is worthwhile (more so for newbies). While Cycle Touring is a possibility, the description from HappyHumber rightly stresses 'distance'. Location is intrinsic to cycling though Cycle Touring tend to be more focussed on the location experience.
Thank you to everyone who has provided input - this topic will be moved into the new Audax section and I look forward to seeing this grow.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby roller » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:41 am
thanks for posting this, I have ridden with one of the guys that's just done this, he was/is/will be an absolute beast, when training for 3 peaks I managed to stick with him up greenmount hill, to Mundaring weir, then nearly to the Kalamunda roundabout, in his draft the whole way, the rubber band finally snapped on hummerston.HappyHumber wrote:Anyway, [url=http://axel-koenig.com/results/pbp2015/en].
was interested to see his time.
mammoth achievement, simply amazing.
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Re: Paris Brest Paris 2015 - Some stats for you
Postby HappyHumber » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:20 am
Anyone else should feel free to share links here & there too. The sub-reddit could do with some more Aussie representation.
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