Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

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Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby posnerd » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:27 pm

Hi Everyone. I'm a virgin, so take it easy on me.

Looking to take the plunge and buy my first real road bike (currently riding a flat bar roadie, Giant CRX3).

I have about $2k to spend. Rather than buy an entry level carbon bike, my aim is to buy a good quality alloy bike that I will keep for a few years and upgrade components along the way.

The bike that has caught my eye is Cannondale's CAAD9 5 (2010 model). I'm led to believe that the alloy frame has a great reputation. Tomorrow, I'm taking one for a test ride, so should get a better feel for it then.

With the CAAD10 5 (2011 model) about to be released, I can pick up the CAAD9 5 (2010 model) for just under $2k (RRP $2,800). My dilemma is, should I wait a few months and buy the CAAD10 5 (2011 model) for about $2,200 (like everything, this year's new model's RRP is much lower than last year's), or should I stick to the tried and tested CAAD9.

These are the pro's and con's as far as I can tell.

CAAD9 5
Last of the 'Made in USA' frames
Old, though trusted, frame
Old version of 105 kit

CAAD10 5
Made in Taiwan frame (from 2011, the frames for all Cannondale bikes will be made in Taiwan)
New frame design/build (big change from CAAD9 frame ... could be good or bad)
New version of 105 kit

If anyone has any inside knowledge on CAAD9s or 10s, I'd love to hear from them.

Other recommendations welcome, too.

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby Tim » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:39 pm

I've got a CAAD9 1 and think it is the best bike in the world. That is a completely rational and unbiased opinion. I won't enter any argument, it is the best, I love it.
In you're shoes I'd pick the older frame, it's tried and tested, the new one is just that, new and untested.
Being a bit more serious though, the best thing you can do is try and test both and make your own mind up. I wouldn't limit your choice to just these two bikes. As good as the Cannondales are, there are heaps of other very good bikes out there, one of which might just suit you better.
One or two comments on my bike; it has more expensive running gear than the 5 (105 is good stuff, still using it on a steel bike from 1989), none-the-less essentially the same bikes, my bike is light, fast, quiet, smooth, looks good and is a pleasure to ride. What more could I want?

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby Missy24 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:45 pm

Go the Caad 9

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby thomas_cho » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:24 pm

Is made in USA better than made in Taiwan?

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby Missy24 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:27 pm

Not neccessarily, but the Caad 9 is a fantastic build and its the last of an era... so why not be in it. The frame is awesome, it really does compete with CF, although keep in mind that this isn't the same for all alloy frames, some are obvioulsy better than others.

I doubt the quality will change between the USA and Taiwan, Cannondale will have strict controls in place, but your buying history now.

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby Dac » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:39 pm

nice choice to have, the mighty AUD$ is opening up some interesting options.

CAAD9 frames are classic, I know a bloke who more often than not picks his 40,000 km old favourite to ride despite having two newer carbon bikes in the garage, I'm sure the new model will also be classic in time. Have a look on Bike Forums - the cult of CAAD is huge there

understand though that Cannondale "105" means FSA crank and Tektro brakes,I don't know why they do this because it make me wonder where else they've trimmed specs to fit into a price bracket. Shimano RS10 wheels are an upgrade waiting to happen as well

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby posnerd » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:35 pm

Dac wrote:nice choice to have, the mighty AUD$ is opening up some interesting options.

CAAD9 frames are classic, I know a bloke who more often than not picks his 40,000 km old favourite to ride despite having two newer carbon bikes in the garage, I'm sure the new model will also be classic in time. Have a look on Bike Forums - the cult of CAAD is huge there

understand though that Cannondale "105" means FSA crank and Tektro brakes,I don't know why they do this because it make me wonder where else they've trimmed specs to fit into a price bracket. Shimano RS10 wheels are an upgrade waiting to happen as well
I agree - some of the components arn't that flash, but I figure I can upgrade by stealth (when the treasurer has her back turned)

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby thomas_cho » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:52 am

Buying the bike with componentry that you are already earmarking for upgrading is false savings. Nothing wrong with "old" 5600 105 groupset. But with each new version, Shimano incorporates better technology (so you get better bang for buck). More so with the new variant 5700 groupset, its a completely re-designed groupset.

Go the Caad10.

You want to dabble in classic bikes, get a steel bike someone left by the roadside.

Another thot, and the path I would go because I have built up several bikes, ask if the frameset is available separately, crunch the numbers with prices of groupset from c r c/PBK and fitting kit. Chances are that you will not save any money, BUT you get all the components you want/need to begin with. However this can be costly if you dont already have the tools to build it up yourself.

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby elantra » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:27 am

At the recent Noosa Multisport there was a number of Cannondale's at the Trade village.
Most of their models were there including a new CAAD 10.

To my subjective eye it is not as attractive a frame as the CAAD 9.

Obviously it is a fine piece of kit whichever you get.

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby antipodean » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:41 am

After reading this review I would definitely buy the CAAD10.

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/c ... ride-27905

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby petal665 » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:54 am

CAAD9 looks better.

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby toppity » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:18 am

I love my CAAD9. I had all intentions of buying the CAAD10 but the runout price on the CAAD9 was too good to resist. I got the Durace (FSA cranks but Durace brakes) setup for over $1000 less than rrp. The CAAD10 is reportedly a few hundred grams lighter, and although I always consider weight, it wasn't enough to sway me. The last of the American made frames doesn't mean it's better, but I have to be honest, it made me a little more confident. Lifetime frame warranty on both I think anyway.

I tried some carbon frame around the same price range but found the CAAD9 to be superior for me.

I wouldn't hesitate recomending the CAAD9.
I ride several bicycles, but not at once.

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby Shortshanks » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:30 am

toppity wrote:I love my CAAD9. I had all intentions of buying the CAAD10 but the runout price on the CAAD9 was too good to resist. I got the Durace (FSA cranks but Durace brakes) setup for over $1000 less than rrp. The CAAD10 is reportedly a few hundred grams lighter, and although I always consider weight, it wasn't enough to sway me. The last of the American made frames doesn't mean it's better, but I have to be honest, it made me a little more confident. Lifetime frame warranty on both I think anyway.

I tried some carbon frame around the same price range but found the CAAD9 to be superior for me.

I wouldn't hesitate recomending the CAAD9.
Thanks, Toppity.

Nice to hear from someone who has recently purchased a CAAD9. Sounds like you had the same decision to make as me. Carbon v. Alloy / CAAD9 v. CAAD10.

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby breezer1 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:26 am

cannondale caad9 all the way, best bike i have ever owned! :D
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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby comehome » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:28 am

i'd love to get my hands on a 2009 CAAD9 in 56..

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby breezer1 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:28 pm

mine's 2009 in 54cm ....love it!
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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby macca33 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:21 pm

The Yanks go crazy over the CAAD9 - I suspect, because it was the last USA-made frameset in the CAAD series.

I've never ridden one, but accept they are a nice rig - I'm glad that I went CAAD10 and beleive that newer technology must have some benefits, or they wouldn't continue to develop new tech, would they?!?!?

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby Saturnstarzz » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:03 pm

Go the CAAD 9.

I have a 56cm 2009 95,(in gunmetal gray) and I love it.
Dont worry bout the groupset too much, you can always upgrade later on. :D
Tekro brakes are rubbish (had a few warranty claims on them) , I swapped mine for Ultegra brakes.

I have my RS10s still there my "training" wheels.
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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby drpants » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:48 pm

Wow, this is old.

But if anyone's going through the same thing, the CAAD10 is unquestionably better.
It's lighter, stiffer and more comfortable. YMMV of course but I've tested both extensively

There are a couple of pros for the CAAD9 though, the welds are smoother and it is a bit more exciting (both because there's less of them and it's made in USA).

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby trailgumby » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:36 pm

Haven't ridden the CAAD10 to compare, but there's one parked next to my CAAD9 at work.

The 9 is unquestionably the better finished bike.

Aero section seatstays, sanded welds that confuse the uninitiated into thinking it's a CF frame. For an alloy frame it is amazingly comfortable to ride. If the 10 is better, that's pretty special.

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby macca33 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:10 pm

[quote="trailgumby"..............snip.............sanded welds that confuse the uninitiated into thinking it's a CF frame....snip..........[/quote]


Odd that you mention this TG, as I've had more than one person say that my CAAD10 looks like it is a carbon frame and all were bemused when I said aluminium, with one not believing me until I explained C-A-A-D to him...hahaha

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby goudgey » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:40 pm

I concur. The welds on my 11 CAAD10 are very smooth and I've also had fellow riders thinking it was a carbon framed bike. Welds on later model 10's don't look as smooth though so perhaps attention to this detail fell away from the earlier 10's?
I've not ridden a 9 but I must say that my 10 is an amazing bike. I can't imagine ever needing a better bike!

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby ekes » Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:40 pm

Owned both and love the Caad10. Lucky enough to own the Black Inc Di2 version

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby Tim » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:11 pm

Tim wrote:I've got a CAAD9 1 and think it is the best bike in the world. That is a completely rational and unbiased opinion. I won't enter any argument, it is the best, I love it.
Oh how time and experience can change an attitude and opinion.
I'll never buy any overpriced, BB30, unreliable, breakable, poorly supported (by manufacturer and importers) piece of Cannondale junk again. Period.

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Re: Cannondale CAAD9 or CAAD10?

Postby trailgumby » Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:41 pm

Do tell. What happened?

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