Fat Bikes

Fat Bikes

Postby Baalzamon » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:00 pm

The idea has sprung to mind so time to let it develop.
I've had the idea of a fat bike for a while now. Take it with car to a 4wd fishing beach, park car and out comes said fat bike and roll on down to the beach. I did want a touring bike and I think I've stumbled on a compromise.
My CX can road tour and dirt road tour no dramas. Leaves the areas of trails, beaches etc uncovered. Fat bike enters the scene and can handle all that and more.
Early days and going to be months before I even think about getting one, but the idea is from a picture I've found
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Cheesewheel » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:56 pm

noble plan!

You might find this guy's blog interesting

http://troyszczurkowski.blogspot.com.au ... art-1.html

Check his other posts to see how it handled the beach and also his more recent one's about the snow if you want to get some idea of performance.
He works as a bike mech and also has a lot of experience with 4WD offroading so he has good ideas/precautions about moving parts + sand

(he gives lots of tech ideas on how to spec a pugsley to be more corrosive free if you plan to regularly hit the sea-side).

I almost went down that path (before I got side tracked by recumbents).


In the end I settled for keeping my MTB with 2.5" wheels , getting a handlebag harness and oversized MTB saddle bag.
(as a side point, I do recall someone saying you can squeeze 2.5" tyres on a pugsley if there is a lot of asphalt between the beaches you plan on riding (save on burning your $100 fattie wheels and probably 20% more calories for no reason)

I liked the pugsley because you could fit an internal gear easier (saves having a rear cassette sounding like a pepper grinder). I liked the mukluk because it had an aluminium frame (no rust).
Never really got around to making my mind up.
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Baalzamon » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:16 pm

Oh nice find. However down the track it would get a Rohloff pure and simple. No RD then. But the link you provided is showing a Moonlander which is the one I'm eyeballing. Pretty paint job as well. I actually think I saw his youtube this morning of fatbikes on Moreton Island

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On reading the blog he went the Nuvinci for no drive train loss hmmm I know what you have to do with the Rohloff
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby silentbutdeadly » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:17 am

I'd be thinking that the Surly Krampus might be the perfect compromise - a 29er with 3" tyres

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Though I reckon if you have a 29er that'll fit a more normal 2.4 to 2.55 width tyre then you'll be good to go virtually anywhere in this country...even mine with a 2.2 eats its way through sand OK at high pressures
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Aushiker » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:33 pm

If you haven't already I would check out http://forums.mtbr.com/bikepacking-bike-expedition/ for lots of information.

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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby just4tehhalibut » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:37 am

Jetski from BNA has a blog mentioning a new fat bike and brand that I've not seen before. http://www.perthcyclist.net/blog/9zero7-fat-bike-ride-perth-hills-heritage-rail-trail/ . I came across that from a link on the Lazy Rando blog, also a source of fat bike porn. http://thelazyrando.wordpress.com/category/fat-tire-biking/

What about putting fat tyres on a cargo bike? It has been done to the odd Big Dummy.
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby jet-ski » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:45 pm

haha I've been summonsed!! about to put a rack on mine for touring purposes....it's waiting at the PO for me to pick it up.... not going to go the front rack as I have a carbon fork (Carver O'Beast) but using a handlebar bag instead

the 9:zero:7 I have is the aluminium 135mm offset version but you can get one that takes an internal hub setup AND is aluminium... can get frames or full bikes from fatbikes.com
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Baalzamon » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:33 pm

jet-ski wrote:haha I've been summonsed!! about to put a rack on mine for touring purposes....it's waiting at the PO for me to pick it up.... not going to go the front rack as I have a carbon fork (Carver O'Beast) but using a handlebar bag instead

the 9:zero:7 I have is the aluminium 135mm offset version but you can get one that takes an internal hub setup AND is aluminium... can get frames or full bikes from fatbikes.com


I would love to see it when you do
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby jet-ski » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:06 am

The rack is on, did the rail trail loop yesterday to test it out with a light load, seems good. Not a lot of clearance though and it looks a bit goofy. Other frames might be less goofy in set up because of the location of the 9:zero:7 rack bosses. Will upload pics and write a blog post tonight.
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby jet-ski » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:05 am

So here's the blog entry,

http://www.perthcyclist.net/blog/9zero7-fat-bike-with-racks-and-panniers/

will get to do some more riding ANZAC day and this weekend. I am awaiting a handlebar bag and a couple of other things and will test with a full load when everything arrives.
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Aushiker » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:49 am

Bikepacking with a fat bike ...



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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Baalzamon » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:53 pm

Well after making an enquiry at GKAsports about custom bont shoes, they directed me to one of 2 places. One with no experience, the others with heaps. I was looking at their website before contacting them, yes this seems off topic right now.

What do I think I see on their website, a Surly Moonlander, so my phone call I ask about that as well. Turns out they are the home of Fat Bikes in WA. So when I get my feet moulded, I'll also do a test ride.
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Baalzamon » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:58 pm

Surly Moonlander is a very plush bike, soo comfy. I'm gotta get myself a fat bike in next year
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby grasshopper » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:54 am

You've probably already found these, but if you're on Fb the bikepacking oz group is useful. And the Alaskans/northern Canadians do a lot of fat trips - the Revelate Designs crew often have some cool stuff on the blog, and bikepacking.net seems to have a lot of fat bike experience. :)
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby queequeg » Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:51 pm

Lynskey has just dipped their toes in the water with this creation:

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https://www.lynskeyperformance.com/store/mountain/bikes-and-frames/fatbikes/fatbike-models.html
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Baalzamon » Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:56 pm

queequeg wrote:Lynskey has just dipped their toes in the water with this creation:

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https://www.lynskeyperformance.com/store/mountain/bikes-and-frames/fatbikes/fatbike-models.html


And I see they have taken the Surly fork and rims haha
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby queequeg » Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:07 pm

Baalzamon wrote:
queequeg wrote:Lynskey has just dipped their toes in the water with this creation:

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https://www.lynskeyperformance.com/store/mountain/bikes-and-frames/fatbikes/fatbike-models.html


And I see they have taken the Surly fork and rims haha


Yeah, they mentioned that for the prototype they has little choice, but I think they are working on a matching Ti fork
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Baalzamon » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:04 pm

Well sure it's a beautiful bike, but means I would need to save longer to get it
Surly Moonlander $3.2k-$3.5k and locally
That is $5.3k in the configuration I want then I need to factor in duties as well.
Tackle on the fact I want to change what ever fat bike I get into a IGH most likely a Nokon 360 which is an extra $500 odd. And racks and mudguards
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby just4tehhalibut » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:38 pm

On the Surly blog they made a fat version of their Big Dummy cargo bike, no promise of a production version but it would make an interesting ride. Consider the Dummy without those racks, you'd have a fat tyred long wheelbased bike for a truly plush ride.
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby HappyHumber » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:44 pm

Sheesh... that reminds me of the "Land Master" from that silly ol' movie "Damnation Alley" from 1977.
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby il padrone » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:49 pm

just4tehhalibut wrote:On the Surly blog they made a fat version of their Big Dummy cargo bike, no promise of a production version but it would make an interesting ride. Consider the Dummy without those racks, you'd have a fat tyred long wheelbased bike for a truly plush ride.


Been done, and quite some years ago now. The drivetrain needed on this thing is a beast :o

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They did kinda take it to the extreme

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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Cheesewheel » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:09 pm

While searching for a particular fat bike I stumbled across this link from a guy who attended the North American Hand made Bicycle show.

http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/nahbs- ... 40831.html

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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby just4tehhalibut » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:50 pm

And there's this on Bike Rumor, more fat bikes on show.
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby il padrone » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:33 pm

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Going by the gearing on that thing, you'd need the cadence of Superman to keep pacing with the motor :o
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Re: Fat Bikes

Postby Baalzamon » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:57 pm

mmmm Titanium and for not much more than the Surly Moonlander
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That one is a perth local and pimped up with a red rohloff and red rotors. Full rack points and water bottle points on the fork.
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