Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
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Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby nezumi » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:19 pm
While adventuring around I spotted another store open which stock Merida. I test rode the Cyclo Cross 4 and I really like it.
Now I am deciding if I need the ruggedised, touring bike or the cyclocross bike more. In a way, I suspect that the cyclocross might be the better way to go based on the fact that I might not persevere with the cycle commuting thing, but can still use it as a fun bike.
I am an office worker who has the potential of leaving clothes at the office, so panniers wouldn't be essential.
The commute is 20kms each way, so potential for sweat is high.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby simonn » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:39 am
Sweat. Meh. You are not going to be riding 20km in your suit anyway.
IMHO... as an average rider...
If you only want one bike a CX is a very good choice.
But, they are a jack-of-all-trades master of none - except CX and, IMHO, commuting.
They are not road bikes that can do the same thing as a MTB - you will spend a lot of time running technical sections. Which kind of defeats the purpose of the MTB thing. No suspension is hard work.
They are not MTBs than can be road bikes with a simple change of the tyres - they are probably heavier than a roadie of equivalent cost = slower. This can be ok, but if, like a fat & unfit me, you do the odd group ride where you need every advantage you can possibly get to just stay on as long as possible a, CX will show it's deficiencies in this role. If it doesn't, then you likely have wheels which are not going to last if you take the bike off-road/race CX much (which is ok, I guess, if you are a sponsored rider and not buying your own wheels, but...). However, they can make slightly slower group rides and social rides more exercise worthy (and are still a bit of a talking point on said rides). You could also get a second lighter "road" wheelset which would probably allow this though.
Then again, as a commuter for a 20km commute, they rock.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby cyclotaur » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:12 pm
I have toured with panniers and 35s, and with a back pack and the road wheels/25s. I do bunch road rides and have no trouble sitting on 40kph in the bunch.
The weight (alu frame) with the heavy wheels/tyres and mudguards is about 9.5kgs. With the lighter road wheels/tyres it's about 8.8 kgs and the difference is all in the wheels, obviously. As i'm about 7-8 kgs over ideal weight there's not much point in me paying extra for a lighter bike.
If you want to use one bike most of the time, or can't afford/be bothered with having several bikes then a good alu framed CX bike and a spare set of light road wheels is the go.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby rangersac » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:15 pm
Another subtle difference is from a safety perspective. 99% of the time I ride with only one pannier, mounted on the road side. I find drivers tend to give me more passing room as the pannier sticks out further making you a larger object, especially at night thanks to the reflective rear facing triangle it sports.
Having a backpack/ bag is faster due to less weight and better aerodynamics, but in the grand scheme of things it's not a great deal of difference. I do a 60km a day commute. With a backpack on my roadie instead of my flat bar commuter it works out at only about 4-5 minutes faster in each direction. That difference would undoubtedly be even smaller if I had a drop bar rather than a flat bar commuter.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby hamishf » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:29 pm
I've heard the local important has stopped bring them in, someone correct me if I'm wrong, so they could get hard to find soon.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby kb » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:41 pm
+1 for roadside mounting. If overloaded, it encourages you to lean left rather than right. If the bike falls, it protects the rear derailleur.rangersac wrote:Another subtle difference is from a safety perspective. 99% of the time I ride with only one pannier, mounted on the road side. I find drivers tend to give me more passing room as the pannier sticks out further making you a larger object, especially at night thanks to the reflective rear facing triangle it sports.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby Marx » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:48 pm
I commute on a CX 40kms approx per day. Backpack only.
I like the flexibility in the surfaces you can ride, that back pack means that gutter hopping & stairs is do-able without mashing your work-provided laptop.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby rkelsen » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:24 pm
My commute is 22km each way. There is sweat... even on the coldest days.nezumi wrote:The commute is 20kms each way, so potential for sweat is high.
A CX bike is an excellent choice for an all-rounder. Have fun with it!
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby queequeg » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:07 pm
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby clackers » Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:25 pm
But no reason you can't take the rack off as desired. I leave it there and it becomes a sort of defacto mudguard.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby barefoot » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:07 pm
+1queequeg wrote:CX + panniers for me.
I hate riding on the road with a backpack. Let the bike carry it. I still hop gutters on my (panniered CX) commuter.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby VRE » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:21 am
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby CXCommuter » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:00 pm
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby alkhoo » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:39 am
Today, I rode in with just a musette because I was going to pick up my regular backpack from the drycleaners. It took a while to find a drycleaner that will dry clean backpacks! It was starting to get a bit whiffy from all that riding.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby Calvin27 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:29 pm
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby visrealm » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:21 pm
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby Mugglechops » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:34 pm
I have always used backpacks for commuting as it makes it easier to ride different bikes.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby DJIntegr8 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:39 pm
I just picked one up as well this past weekend, great deals at the moment!visrealm wrote:I recently bought a Specialized Secteur Disc for a bargain (2013 stock) which is classed as a disc brake roadie for my commute. I've mounted a rack and fenders to it.. Runs on 28's. Have only had it a few weeks but it's brilliant for my commute (Crafers SA/Lofty to Adelaide City). Has CX disc wheels, so could probably put 35s on if you wanted to.
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Which rack are you running? I just ordered a Tubus Disco, but now I'm not 100% sure on the disc clearance from the mounting point.. I guess I'll find out when the rack arrives!
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby winstonw » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:50 pm
The weather was around 12-24 degrees.
The backpack straps are stiff and stained with sweat, as are the helmet straps and rest of my gear.
Where you store your gear I suppose depends on the type of riding you do most, and how heavy the pack is. I wasn't that uncomfortable with my backpack over the weekend...and another advantage is that if you have someone else riding in your group without a pack, they can carry yours for a bit....not so panniers.
suppose if I was reconsidering what one bike I'd get, it'd be a roadie. it's not often I ride gravel roads.
2 more considerations:
gearing. I like having 50/34 on the front, and 11/28 on the back. Actually, for any climb greater than 20% for longer than 100 metres, I'd like 30 or even 32 on the back.
rear derailleur cage length. I don't like long cages. I've had too much trouble with them bending/flexing/ too easily coming out of fine tuned state.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby __PG__ » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:53 am
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby clackers » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:30 am
You won't regret it, PG!__PG__ wrote:I commute on my old steel roadie with backpack. The backpack is giving me the sh**ts (sweat and neck/shoulder issues) and my next bike will be a CX bike with rack mounts.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby Baalzamon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:13 pm
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby Xplora » Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:53 pm
Rack is so much better, and not that much more pricey if you get a good Deuter commuting backpack.
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby holmesy » Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:29 pm
I too have gone a secteur Disc - I have gone to get my old rear rack (TorTec Ultralite from wiggle) from my giant cypress onto the new bike. It doesn't fit (unless I am doing something wildly wrong). The rear wheels are much wider than the old bike. Bugger.DJIntegr8 wrote:I just picked one up as well this past weekend, great deals at the moment!visrealm wrote:I recently bought a Specialized Secteur Disc for a bargain (2013 stock) which is classed as a disc brake roadie for my commute. I've mounted a rack and fenders to it.. Runs on 28's. Have only had it a few weeks but it's brilliant for my commute (Crafers SA/Lofty to Adelaide City). Has CX disc wheels, so could probably put 35s on if you wanted to.
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Which rack are you running? I just ordered a Tubus Disco, but now I'm not 100% sure on the disc clearance from the mounting point.. I guess I'll find out when the rack arrives!
Brendan
Any recommendations on what to get to ensure it is wide enough to attach on the back wheel?
(Or I might take this opportunity to get a carridice bag with a seat stem attachement - but I am worried about attaching this to a the carbon seat post)
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Re: Cyclocross + backpack versus tourer
Postby visrealm » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:37 pm
Sorry for the tardy reply. I'm using a disc - specific Topeak rack. http://www.topeak.com/products/Racks/Ex ... dsc_spring" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; got it from Cell.DJIntegr8 wrote:I just picked one up as well this past weekend, great deals at the moment!visrealm wrote:I recently bought a Specialized Secteur Disc for a bargain (2013 stock) which is classed as a disc brake roadie for my commute. I've mounted a rack and fenders to it.. Runs on 28's. Have only had it a few weeks but it's brilliant for my commute (Crafers SA/Lofty to Adelaide City). Has CX disc wheels, so could probably put 35s on if you wanted to.
Troy
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Which rack are you running? I just ordered a Tubus Disco, but now I'm not 100% sure on the disc clearance from the mounting point.. I guess I'll find out when the rack arrives!
Brendan
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