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Tools
Postby tuco » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:35 pm
I don't know the technical names for them but like things to get the chain off and on.
I have the obvious items like a multi tool for the bike bag and tyre levers.
I found an ebay seller who sells a mountain of bike tools and bits and pieces including handle bar streamers.
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Postby mikesbytes » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:46 pm
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Postby sogood » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:23 pm
Fundamentally, the following seemed standard.
- Allen key set: 2mm for brake caliper adjustment up to 8mm for pedal installation)
- T25 torx screw: Seen more and more.
- Philips head: Here and there.
- Spanner: I find a small adjustable one works well.
- Chain whip/Cassette nut*: Brand specific. Needed to give that thorough degrease and drive train cleaning.
- Chain breaker*: Get a solid one or you'll regret over bent pins.
- Crank puller/BB specific tools*: No alternative but to have them if you want to work on your own BB. Or just pay the LBS to work on these and save on the tool cost.
- Torque wrench: Particularly important if you work on CF components. Can be expensive as you may need two units for different ranges.
- Bike workstand*: Don't get those ultra cheap ones where the bike is supported by the BB. You might as well as not have one. You can just get the clamp and mount it on your workbench or a platform of your creation.
* - These need to be sourced from LBS or eBay.
I wouldn't true/tension wheels casually. Pay and get it done right or make a big commitment to learn the art properly.
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Postby europa » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:40 pm
But if I was honest, I'd admit that I'd love a real workshop stand.
Normal allen keys are nice, but T bars (a long key with a plastic T shaped handle) make life much easier.
Another set of tyre levers - I'm getting fed up with digging into my bike's tool bag for them.
Richard
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Postby tuco » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:57 pm
Regular maintenance, a chain breaker to get the chain off and give it a good clean?
I like the idea of the bike carrier as a work stand. Just back the car up the drive way and work away. Good thinking 99.
What handy man doesn't already have a set of allen keys, philips head screw drivers and spanners?
It'll be awhile before I have to worry about a torque wrench on a CF frame.
I probably should have worded the question better. I did say it was vague.
Probably should have asked what tools are needed to perform certain jobs. EG Chain whip/Cassette nut to remove/replace cassette.
Anyway, thanks for the input.
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Postby sogood » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:52 pm
You are mostly ok with steel and alloy components. But for CF, use torque wrench to play safe.europa wrote:Dunno that you need a torque wrench. Although torques are given for a lot of stuff, they're really just company failsafe's. Do it by feel.
Torque settings are not just dreamed up numbers. There's usually good engineering basis for their existence. So adhere to the spec.
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Postby MJF » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:21 pm
europa wrote:Although torques are given for a lot of stuff, they're really just company failsafe's. Do it by feel.
Richard
AAAArhhhhhh!!! Heathen!
I have three torque wrenches - about $700 worth, from inch-pounds up to 150 lb/ft. Fasteners need to be tightened to a percentage of their ultimate tensile strength otherwise they will come loose or fail. An insufficiently tightened bolts in a stressed application will fail earlier than an overtightened bolt. And with threads into aluminium, there is little room for error...
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Postby sogood » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:32 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby Mulger bill » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:34 pm
A few basics IMO...
A good book on bike maintenance, there's plenty out there, and if nothing else you can stop the boys at the LBS when you talk to them.
Chainwhip and (specific) lockring tool if you want your cluster to really gleam. It makes doing the rear hub easier too.
An onbike chain cleaner is handy if a little messy.
Chainbreaker and masterlink or shimano joiner pins. If you've got a splined BB spindle, don't forget the insert.
A bit of broken spoke ~100 mm long with a hook bent into each end makes breaking and joining chains easier.
I thought a simple hoist slung under the back veranda was pretty cool until a workstand came my way, ebay again says the GLW.
Ummm, where would the T25's be on a roadie? None seen on thenewone, the only ones on Princess secure the brake rotors.Sogood wrote:T25 torx screw: Seen more and more.
Torque wrench: Particularly important if you work on CF components
Torque wrench needed now there's CF in my life. Are they an LBS item? What range will I need?
Do these T handle hex keys have ball ends?
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Postby tinstaafl » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:04 am
I have a set of each and would strongly suggest buying the ball ended ones.Mulger bill wrote:Do these T handle hex keys have ball ends?
They are a few dollars extra but are far more flexible to use. I use the ball end to do most of the tightening then switch to the side piece for the last turn.
Robert
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Postby sogood » Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:22 am
Torx is needed with Campag groupsets.Mulger bill wrote:Ummm, where would the T25's be on a roadie? None seen on thenewone, the only ones on Princess secure the brake rotors.
Torque wrench needed now there's CF in my life. Are they an LBS item? What range will I need?
Torque wrenches are available either through LBS (Park Tool) or general/auto tool stores. But I would suggest that you read up Park Tool's offers. Also do a Google on the subject so that you are well informed in your purchasing decision.
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Postby MJF » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:08 pm
Specialist tool companies, look for "Warren and Brown". Been bought out by Repco, I believe... You'll need to find out the torque settings first then pick an appropriate model... or models. Avoid the crappy clicker style from car parts places, a beam indicator is probably the cheapest & is more accurate than the clicker style.Mulger bill wrote: Torque wrench needed now there's CF in my life. Are they an LBS item? What range will I need?
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