Creatine help in improving endurance
The information / discussion in the Cycling Health Forum is not qualified medical advice. Please consult your doctor.
-
- Posts: 120
- Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:15 am
Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby maninlycra » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:58 am
Wondering whether creatine could help me build endurance and some mass in my chicken feet
I usually ride about 40 Ks flat would like my legs to last longer.
- foo on patrol
- Posts: 9008
- Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:12 am
- Location: Sanstone Point QLD
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby foo on patrol » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:26 pm
Foo
Goal 6000km
-
- Posts: 1192
- Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:01 pm
- Location: Bass Hill, NSW
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby r2160 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:02 pm
The first time I got on a bike, I struggled to complete 10km. Now, it is a good day out doing 130km
Just ride, and consistency is the key
cheers
Glenn
"Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever" Lance Armstrong
-
- Posts: 211
- Joined: Sun May 13, 2012 5:35 pm
- Location: Hoxton Park
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby Cossie Phil » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:32 pm
Cheers,
Phil.
- Alex Simmons/RST
- Expert
- Posts: 4997
- Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 3:51 pm
- Contact:
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:59 pm
http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/nutrition ... s/creatine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;maninlycra wrote:I used to take creatine during my gym days, helped strengthen the muscles like there was no tomorrow.
Wondering whether creatine could help me build endurance and some mass in my chicken feet
I usually ride about 40 Ks flat would like my legs to last longer.
- Matt_Matt
- Posts: 1370
- Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:52 pm
- Location: Mornington VIC
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby Matt_Matt » Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:31 pm
Alex Simmons/RST wrote:http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/nutrition ... s/creatine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;maninlycra wrote:I used to take creatine during my gym days, helped strengthen the muscles like there was no tomorrow.
Wondering whether creatine could help me build endurance and some mass in my chicken feet
I usually ride about 40 Ks flat would like my legs to last longer.
I wonder if they ended up performing studies that actually tested the effects of creatine on specific performance outcomes ?Last Updated 3/1/07
-
- Posts: 120
- Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:15 am
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby maninlycra » Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:12 pm
The problem I face is after about 40 Ks the ride is just a drag.
I get desperate to reach home (destination).
The enjoyment factor gets down to negative.
Believe if my legs had it, I could soldier on, that's why I'am looking towards a supplement.
-
- Posts: 1451
- Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:15 am
- Location: Brisbane
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby briztoon » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:01 pm
My view is that creatine may be used as a supplement to make you a stronger rider, and/or recover quicker. So a performance enhancer in this sense. But not the type of supplement to help you cheat on not putting in the effort.
I know what it's like to hurt, and not enjoy a ride. I'm sure we've all been there. But we put in the effort to push that point further out. I remember when it used to be 60km for me, then 90km, then 140km. The worst I've ever felt was the last 40km of a 170km ride. I was bonking, hurting in all the wrong places, but didn't have a choice as I was 40km from home. That's how I would push my distances out, ride out to a point while I felt good, knowing there was no short cut back from my turn around point.
-
- Posts: 120
- Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:15 am
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby maninlycra » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:27 pm
Its not so much about trying to keep upping the threshold, its more of enjoying every bit of it.briztoon wrote:Personally, I can't see how using creatine to be able to ride extra distances will help you enjoy the ride, but putting in the effort to build your base naturally won't. 40km really isn't that far of a ride, I'd look at upping your distance by 10km per month. Maybe you need different routes to mix things up a bit.
My view is that creatine may be used as a supplement to make you a stronger rider, and/or recover quicker. So a performance enhancer in this sense. But not the type of supplement to help you cheat on not putting in the effort.
I know what it's like to hurt, and not enjoy a ride. I'm sure we've all been there. But we put in the effort to push that point further out. I remember when it used to be 60km for me, then 90km, then 140km. The worst I've ever felt was the last 40km of a 170km ride. I was bonking, hurting in all the wrong places, but didn't have a choice as I was 40km from home. That's how I would push my distances out, ride out to a point while I felt good, knowing there was no short cut back from my turn around point.
Eg- The first 20 Ks are so much enjoying, love the fact that I woke up early on the weekend (despite all the sacrifices) and actually rode while the rest of the world was recovering from a late night of FUN
-
- Posts: 1451
- Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:15 am
- Location: Brisbane
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby briztoon » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:46 pm
When I started riding, my starting distance was 25km and it nearly killed me. I slowly upped my distances to 50km. Then I met my riding partner. She put me in the hurt locker for the first week, upping the distances over 3 rides to 100km. After that every ride was 100km+ and I'd be gritting my teeth my for the last 30km, then 20km. Then over time 100km became easy and then standard. We were riding 300+ km a week and enjoying the rides and scenery. Over time I became a stronger rider than my ride partner over distances up to 140km. As long as you have the fuel, it's just a case of mind over body.
Everyone says it. You have to put time in the saddle to get better and find the ride more comfortable.
-
- Posts: 5470
- Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:23 pm
- Location: Yangebup
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby Baalzamon » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:51 pm
It sounds like your bonking.maninlycra wrote:Thanks Guys for all the input.
The problem I face is after about 40 Ks the ride is just a drag.
I get desperate to reach home (destination).
The enjoyment factor gets down to negative.
Believe if my legs had it, I could soldier on, that's why I'am looking towards a supplement.
Are you eating anything before the ride, during the ride. Drinking plain water, or water with gatorade or similar mixed in?
-
- Posts: 1451
- Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:15 am
- Location: Brisbane
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby briztoon » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:59 pm
-
- Posts: 1451
- Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:15 am
- Location: Brisbane
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby briztoon » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:08 pm
- clackers
- Posts: 2065
- Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 10:48 am
- Location: Melbourne
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby clackers » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:35 pm
Sugar can be that supplement to stop you bonking, ManInLycra.maninlycra wrote: Believe if my legs had it, I could soldier on, that's why I'am looking towards a supplement.
Cheaper than creatine powder, too, I bet, which is more for your maximum efforts rather than your regular pedalling.
-
- Posts: 120
- Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:15 am
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby maninlycra » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:55 pm
Baalzamon wrote:It sounds like your bonking.maninlycra wrote:Thanks Guys for all the input.
The problem I face is after about 40 Ks the ride is just a drag.
I get desperate to reach home (destination).
The enjoyment factor gets down to negative.
Believe if my legs had it, I could soldier on, that's why I'am looking towards a supplement.
Are you eating anything before the ride, during the ride. Drinking plain water, or water with gatorade or similar mixed in?
Just have a cup of tea before riding, plain water while riding.
- foo on patrol
- Posts: 9008
- Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:12 am
- Location: Sanstone Point QLD
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby foo on patrol » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:00 am
This is because you are not fit enough, no other reason, as you get fitter, the legs will feel like this after 50, 60, 70 and so on in the Kms. Providing you are hydrated and have the energy reserves in your body, it will be the sole reason.maninlycra wrote:Thanks Guys for all the input.
The problem I face is after about 40 Ks the ride is just a drag.
I get desperate to reach home (destination).
The enjoyment factor gets down to negative.
Believe if my legs had it, I could soldier on, that's why I'am looking towards a supplement.
You need to read you body and that means your legs, because your top half could be feeling great but the legs can be getting heavy and they will not start feeling better from that point. Stop trying to take short cuts and find an easy way out, because this is one sport where there are no short cuts.
The above maybe blunt but it is the only way you will get better, so get on the bike read all that has been posted here to help people like you that want to improve.
Foo
Goal 6000km
-
- Posts: 120
- Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:15 am
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby maninlycra » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:07 am
- foo on patrol
- Posts: 9008
- Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:12 am
- Location: Sanstone Point QLD
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby foo on patrol » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:42 am
Foo
Goal 6000km
- kb
- Posts: 2570
- Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:22 pm
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby kb » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:47 am
- Alex Simmons/RST
- Expert
- Posts: 4997
- Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 3:51 pm
- Contact:
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:28 am
You don't need a supplement, you just need to ride/train more, and eat food.maninlycra wrote:Thanks Guys for all the input.
The problem I face is after about 40 Ks the ride is just a drag.
I get desperate to reach home (destination).
The enjoyment factor gets down to negative.
Believe if my legs had it, I could soldier on, that's why I'am looking towards a supplement.
-
- Posts: 9
- Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:45 am
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby Milky4130 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:41 am
sounds like your ride is lacking some structure, try implementing some intervals, before you know it, you have arrived at home.maninlycra wrote:Thanks Guys for all the input.
The problem I face is after about 40 Ks the ride is just a drag.
I get desperate to reach home (destination).
The enjoyment factor gets down to negative.
Believe if my legs had it, I could soldier on, that's why I'am looking towards a supplement.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
- g-boaf
- Posts: 21320
- Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:11 pm
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby g-boaf » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:29 am
And that is also fun.
Of course keep hydrated properly, but apart from that have fun.
- clackers
- Posts: 2065
- Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 10:48 am
- Location: Melbourne
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby clackers » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:59 am
Creatine might be something else you consider to help bursts of effort in an activity like MTB, but your thread title was about 'endurance'
-
- Posts: 5470
- Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:23 pm
- Location: Yangebup
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby Baalzamon » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:52 pm
Take a banana, muesli bars something that has carbohydrates in it. Have it around the 25-30km mark. See how you go.
- nescius
- Posts: 481
- Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:11 pm
- Location: Canberra
Re: Creatine help in improving endurance
Postby nescius » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:58 pm
+1Baalzamon wrote:Your body needs fuel for it to run. As I suggested earlier your bonking and just drinking a cup of tea is empty calories and doesn't provide your body with the needed fuel carbs.
Take a banana, muesli bars something that has carbohydrates in it. Have it around the 25-30km mark. See how you go.
Eat something before you leave (a bowl of cereal or something) and take some bananas with you, eat one every hour or so and I bet you will be fine. Bonking is a terrible feeling and if it is happening every ride it won't be fun at all.
Creatine won't do anything for your endurance.
- General Australian Cycling Topics
- Info / announcements
- Buying a bike / parts
- General Cycling Discussion
- The Bike Shed
- Cycling Health
- Cycling Safety and Advocacy
- Women's Cycling
- Bike & Gear Reviews
- Cycling Trade
- Stolen Bikes
- Bicycle FAQs
- Serious Biking
- Audax / Randonneuring
- Retro biking
- Commuting
- MTB
- Recumbents
- Fixed Gear/ Single Speed
- Track
- Electric Bicycles
- Cyclocross and Gravel Grinding
- Dragsters / Lowriders / Cruisers
- Children's Bikes
- Cargo Bikes and Utility Cycling
- Road Racing
- Road Biking
- Training
- Time Trial
- Triathlon
- International and National Tours and Events
- Cycle Touring
- Touring Australia
- Touring Overseas
- Touring Bikes and Equipment
- Australia
- Western Australia
- New South Wales
- Queensland
- South Australia
- Victoria
- ACT
- Tasmania
- Northern Territory
- Country & Regional
- The Market Place
- Member to Member Bike and Gear Sales
- Want to Buy, Group Buy, Swap
- My Bikes or Gear Elsewhere
- Cycling Brands
- Cannondale
- Garmin
- Giant
- Shimano
- Trek
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users
- All times are UTC+11:00
- Top
- Delete cookies
About the Australian Cycling Forums
The Australian Cycling Forums is a welcoming community where you can ask questions and talk about the type of bikes and cycling topics you like.
Bicycles Network Australia
Forum Information
Connect with BNA
This website uses affiliate links to retail platforms including ebay, amazon, proviz and ribble.