Clip in shoes?
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Clip in shoes?
Postby Crowz » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:15 pm
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby WarrenH » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:02 am
Also if the tension is too strong and you find yourself kicking-out or twisting-out often, to dab often, you could end up with sore heals and/or Achilles tendons until you get familiar with the action.
Be mindful of the position of the cleats. Setting the cleats so that they're good enough ... isn't good enough. Think about how everything feels.
Good luck.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby A_P » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:39 pm
Wise to get used to them before going bush tho.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby uglybob » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:50 pm
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby AUbicycles » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:51 pm
As the other posters suggest, clipping out when you get unstuck is something to learn and consider when tackling obstacles. When you do start to fall, everything goes into slowmo, are you fast enough to clip out?
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby mitzikatzi » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:25 am
Stop putting your foot down on descentsCrowz wrote:.snip..I tend to put my foot down a few times each decent which would lead to a crash in clip ins Any tips/stories?
Some riders use flat pedals and good cycling shoes (stiff soles and grippy rubber soles). Nothing wrong with that.
Others use clipless pedals. Most people who use clipless pedals would not go back to using flats.
From what I read the people who have the most problem with clipless pedals are the ones who don't use them.
In about 2000 I brought some SPD pedals and shoes. I put them on my bike and have been riding them ever since.
I like Shimano SPD pedals some recommend "egg beaters" as good beginner clipless pedals others say Time pedals are good too.
Either buy flat pedals or Clipless pedals not combo pedals (flat one side clipless the other). IMHO the "combo" pedals are awful.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby AUbicycles » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:16 am
That makes sense - you don't want to be mucking around trying to get the pedal around the right way when you should be having fun instead. My SPD flat pedals have clipins on both sides.mitzikatzi wrote:Either buy flat pedals or Clipless pedals not combo pedals (flat one side clipless the other). IMHO the "combo" pedals are awful.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby tubby74 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:37 pm
Check your cleats - spd's some with a single-release or multi-release. Multi-release will come out with a good pull in many directions, I've not had trouble when I lost the back end to get the full out. Single release though you need to twist your foot to get them out. In either case adjust it loose to start with.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby Crowz » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:02 pm
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby Mugglechops » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:54 pm
I have 3 types.
DX SPD on my all mountain bike
XT and lower level trail SPDs on the MTB and CX bike
And standard SPD on my fixie
I think the XT trails are the best and they are only $61 on c r c at the moment.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby mitzikatzi » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:35 am
these be "flats pedals"
Here are some combo pedals.
I still think "combo" pedals are a really poor compromise. The only place I might consider using them was on my pub/shopping bike.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby petie » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:40 pm
I have recently bought a new bike that came with wellgo SPDs...I have shimano cleats on my shoes and shimano pedals on other bikes and the wellgo/shimano combo doesn't seem to go too well. Looking at the wellgo cleats I think they would be alright with the wellgo pedals but I haven't had much fun with shimano cleats. Moral of the story, stick with one brand and get with the strength There are great reviews of the wellgos as a cheap entry to SPD but I haven't had a great deal of fun (I probably am not the target market for these pedals though...)
If you haven't already bought some pedals, you're more than welcome to the wellgos (with their unused cleats) for the price of postage. If you're riding on=road to try them out they will be fine. Maybe if you like SPDs after the trial period go for an upgrade though...
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby Crowz » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:57 pm
Thanks for the offer Petie, I already have Shimano SPD pedels/cleats though.petie wrote:I used to ride flats a long long time ago on the MTB, but only use SPDs these days. I didn't ride off road for a while and was using clip-ins on the road and figured I'd give it a go off road. A few times I've had clip-stacks off road but that just means my line and gear selection was rubbish means I have to try harder next time!
I have recently bought a new bike that came with wellgo SPDs...I have shimano cleats on my shoes and shimano pedals on other bikes and the wellgo/shimano combo doesn't seem to go too well. Looking at the wellgo cleats I think they would be alright with the wellgo pedals but I haven't had much fun with shimano cleats. Moral of the story, stick with one brand and get with the strength There are great reviews of the wellgos as a cheap entry to SPD but I haven't had a great deal of fun (I probably am not the target market for these pedals though...)
If you haven't already bought some pedals, you're more than welcome to the wellgos (with their unused cleats) for the price of postage. If you're riding on=road to try them out they will be fine. Maybe if you like SPDs after the trial period go for an upgrade though...
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby Mehran » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:49 pm
I'm also not sure of these pedals, I wanted to ask you Mugglechops whether the DX outer cage is same as the M785 in terms of shoe/pedal contact? because I am thinking of buying the M785 but it seems that the cage around the clips is just aesthetic and your shoe does not touch them like in the DXMugglechops wrote:I have been using SPD pedals since 1992 and won't ever go back to platforms.
I have 3 types.
DX SPD on my all mountain bike
XT and lower level trail SPDs on the MTB and CX bike
And standard SPD on my fixie
I think the XT trails are the best and they are only $61 on c r c at the moment.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby toolonglegs » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:58 am
The only point I see in them is if you often ride in normal shoes.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby trailgumby » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:18 am
With appropriately stiff shoes you don't really need the platform cages on the trail pedals in my view but then my limit is techy cross country. Too old for AM my bones are no longer made of rubber!
Shimano is good. A bit heavy but bullet proof. The only maintenance mine have needed is a squirt of Wd40 after wet rides to keep the rust away and them looking nice. My oldest set is well into its 4th year.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby Mugglechops » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:35 pm
In the shoes I have now they touch a little but not as much as the DX.Mehran wrote:
I'm also not sure of these pedals, I wanted to ask you Mugglechops whether the DX outer cage is same as the M785 in terms of shoe/pedal contact? because I am thinking of buying the M785 but it seems that the cage around the clips is just aesthetic and your shoe does not touch them like in the DX
They don't really like mud though and can be hard to get out of.
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Postby RonK » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:54 pm
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby silentbutdeadly » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:38 pm
My mud experience with the trail SPD's resembles that view but I much prefer having the cages as the Shimano shoes (especially the cheaper/softer ones) fully engage with the cage. The harder soled Shimano XC70 shoes have less need for the contact but I can still feel it.
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby toolonglegs » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:45 pm
Although apparently the newer shimano SPD's are not quite as good as the previous version ( like in my pic ).
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby Mehran » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:19 pm
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby mitzikatzi » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:01 pm
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby Duck! » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:04 pm
The extended body on the M785 pedals contacts the sole of the shoe fore & aft of the cleat recess, thereby increasing the contact area & reducing localised pressure/hotspotting. The cleat is still the primary engagement point, the pressure just isn't as concentrated on that spot. The design is not intended as an all-purpose/combination type setup that can be used with normal shoes. That's what the T780 Trekking pedal & other similar designs are for.Mehran wrote:My point was to be able to ride with normal shoes, so having a M785 is certainly out of the question, right? what I understood from the above is that it depends on the flexibility of the shoe sole. But here's another question, what's the point of the platform around the pedal if your main contact point is the clipping mechanism in the centre?
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby silentbutdeadly » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:16 am
The Shimano 'race' pedals like those obviously are OK with the mud but the 'trail' versions with the cage around them tend to hang on to the mud between the cage and clip. And the build-up can make unclipping/clipping in a chore because the mud puts pressure on the clip!! Cleans out OK but not with the same ease of the 'race' pedals...toolonglegs wrote:My experience with Shimano SPD's in mud is that they are pretty damn good. Certainly zero issues clipping out... cleats sometimes need a bit of clearing with a few good kicks after a run. Snow is a completely different story!.
Although apparently the newer shimano SPD's are not quite as good as the previous version ( like in my pic ).
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Re: Clip in shoes?
Postby Duck! » Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:01 pm
BTW Toolonglegs, I think clogged pedals are the least of your problem there.
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